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re: Game of Thrones S5:E9:"The Dance of Dragons", BOOK READERS

Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:54 am to
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:54 am to
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So they want you to think they kill him but don't burn his body? That makes no sense
They're Hodors. It doesn't have to make sense.

I wonder if HBO will spoil Jon's fate after the next book comes out, just to get back all of the female viewers they'll lose after Jon gets killed.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:56 am to
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Yes. The group stabbing is more dramatic, and I still suspect that Edd will be in on it. He was one of the NW who stood up in the big hall and protested the wildling plan.

But he was also one of the ones that witnessed the Dawn of the Dead pimping across Hardhome. I doubt he now disagrees much with Jon's decision.

I could very well see Ollie being the sole perpetrator. The shock value alone of a kid stabbing Jon would probably be enough (especially for hodors) for D&D to justify it. Plus they have foreshadowed the crap out of it all season.

ETA: Although that is all predicated on whether or not the stabbing is due to bring the Wildlings beyond the Wall, or if Ramsey actually writes the letter and Jon decides to march on Winterfell. I'm guessing it'll just be because of the Wildlings to save screen time.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:01 pm to
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I think an even more unsettling thought would be if Ramsey turned out to be Azor Ahai. And of course Sansa would be Nissa Nissa.




The savior is a demented social path
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:03 pm to
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I think an even more unsettling thought would be if Ramsey turned out to be Azor Ahai. And of course Sansa would be Nissa Nissa.


#TeamWhiteWalkers
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:07 pm to
I forgot that Ramsey was actually a pretty dang good fighter. The crazy bastard doesn't even like to wear a shirt into battle, much less armor.

Ramsey fight scene
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:11 pm to
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social path

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:12 pm to
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Am I the only one thinking that Ollie is the sole perpetrator in the stabbing of Jon?


I think this now too.
Allister had gained respect and a good position in the watch.
The Watchmen with Jon are going to tell a story that will change the entire direction of the show from this point forward.

When you have an army of zombies coming for you, geopolitics is very secondary.

I think Stannis' army is defeated and falls back to Castly Black to help the Nights watch, and his fleet and survivors bring the tale of the White Walkers south.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:13 pm to
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I still suspect that Edd will be in on it.


even after he saw 50,000 wildlings taken out by zombies/

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:14 pm to
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The crazy bastard doesn't even like to wear a shirt into battle, much less armor.


That would catch up with him, quickly, in the real world.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:14 pm to
Jon gets stabbed and is close to death, but instead of Mel raising him, the Night's King turns him into a White Walker.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:18 pm to
we have three options.

Getting stabbed is a definite it will happen


Option 1. In true GRRM fashion. Jon dies and is dead and that's it. Not R+L=J, no resurrection. He dies and is burnt. Though who would be the POV for the wall? So this is the least likely. Though Samwell did get laid, so odd things can happen.

Option 2. Which most consider the most likely. Is that he is stabbed and dies, and the Lord of Light through the Red Priest revives him. A lot would have to happen to get there, and IF we see any clip of Bedric, we know it's gong that way.


Option 3. He is stabbed but not killed. He is just badly wounded and recovers.


odd given three options, with two being simple life or death, the most likely option for the story is resurrection.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:20 pm to
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Option 1. In true GRRM fashion. Jon dies and is dead and that's it. Not R+L=J, no resurrection. He dies and is burnt. Though who would be the POV for the wall? So this is the least likely. Though Samwell did get laid, so odd things can happen.


I'd put the odds of this being the case on the same level as the odds of me getting a blowjob from Allison Brie tomorrow
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:26 pm to
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I'd put the odds of this being the case on the same level as the odds of me getting a blowjob from Allison Brie tomorrow



yeah, it would totally destroy like seven running sub-stories.

Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42971 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:29 pm to
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Jon gets stabbed and is close to death, but instead of Mel raising him, the Night's King turns him into a White Walker.



I would flip out.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:35 pm to
Or when the NK tries to turn him the "fire" in him negates the "ice" and he's just brought back to life. We're crackpotting now!
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by The Dude Abides
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:45 pm to
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I could very well see Ollie being the sole perpetrator. The shock value alone of a kid stabbing Jon would probably be enough (especially for hodors) for D&D to justify it. Plus they have foreshadowed the crap out of it all season.
I see it like this. Ollie comes into his chambers they discuss the wildlings again, Jon tries to explain again why it was necessary and tries to comfort him Ollie shanks him. Jon dies.

The red priestess returns to the wall after being sent back after Stannis refuses to sacrifice Shireen (or make sex with her as a hodor in the hodor threat thought) just in time to revive him.
Posted by rugbyag
McKinney, Texas
Member since Sep 2011
1083 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:48 pm to
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The red priestess returns to the wall after being sent back after Stannis refuses to sacrifice Shireen (or make sex with her as a hodor in the hodor threat thought) just in time to revive him.


With no one from Stannis' camp at Castle Black anymore, does the NW let her near Jon's body?
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42971 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:58 pm to
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Or when the NK tries to turn him the "fire" in him negates the "ice" and he's just brought back to life. We're crackpotting now!


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH. I LIKE IT. I LIKE IT A LOT. Jon can't be killed by fire, I don't care what yall say.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 12:59 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 1:19 pm to
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Am I the only one thinking that Ollie is the sole perpetrator in the stabbing of Jon?



I'm starting to think that the writers are going to have a "twist" where Ollie dies trying to save Jon from whoever they decide is going to kill him.
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