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re: Game of Thrones S5:E9:"The Dance of Dragons", BOOK READERS
Posted on 6/5/15 at 1:26 pm to rugbyag
Posted on 6/5/15 at 1:26 pm to rugbyag
quote:Why wouldn't they? She has power, i wouldn't try and stop her. I'm sure they won't be thinking she's going to raise him up.
With no one from Stannis' camp at Castle Black anymore, does the NW let her near Jon's body?
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 1:51 pm to TigerintheNO
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Meryn Trant's a goner
From the wiki
quote:
they only assassinate targets they have been hired to kill and may not choose who is worthy of the 'gift' by themselves.
So who makes the call?
Posted on 6/5/15 at 1:54 pm to LSUSilverfox
Also from the wiki, with regards to "A Mother's Mercy" and Sandor Clegane
quote:
"He is no true knight, but he saved me all the same. Save him if you can, and gentle the rage inside him."
– Sansa Stark, praying to the Mother during the Battle of the Blackwater
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:02 pm to The Dude Abides
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Why wouldn't they? She has power, i wouldn't try and stop her. I'm sure they won't be thinking she's going to raise him up
Cause Allister is a prick who wouldnt take requests from a priestess with no reason to see Jon's body.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:07 pm to rugbyag
I don't see any reason why she would have to be in the same room as him to revive him
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:15 pm to wildtigercat93
Just basing it off of what was shown for Bedric.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:17 pm to The Dude Abides
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Am I the only one thinking that Ollie is the sole perpetrator in the stabbing of Jon?
I've thought that, but I really hope not.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:36 pm to LSUSilverfox
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they only assassinate targets they have been hired to kill and may not choose who is worthy of the 'gift' by themselves.
So who makes the call?
I was trying to google the sample chapter from Winds of Winter that deals with what you are asking about. Not sure if people want info or spoilers from the next book, I havent read a majority of them. And across a recent GRRM quote.
sample chapters
quote:
5/28/2015 Update:
Mercy’s identity is out the window.
“And by gone I mean that following that chapter Mercy can no longer have that identity obviously.”
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:41 pm to Korin
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And then Davos will leave to go find Rickon.
Holy shite. I didn't even think about that, but they could easily set that up to put it back in line with the books. He just finds out from Theon or Sansa instead of Manderly.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:16 pm to ffishstik
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Holy shite. I didn't even think about that, but they could easily set that up to put it back in line with the books. He just finds out from Theon or Sansa instead of Manderly.
Yeah but what incentive does he have in the show to go after Rickon? For a Stark to hold Winterfell like they offered snow? Seems easier to prop Sansa up if that's who tells him about Rickon
Also, none of those people have a clue where Rickon is, unlike Manderly did
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:29 pm to wildtigercat93
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Yeah but what incentive does he have in the show to go after Rickon? For a Stark to hold Winterfell like they offered snow? Seems easier to prop Sansa up if that's who tells him about Rickon
But Sansa knows now. So I'm guessing if Sansa tells Stannis that she wants Rickon found before she agrees to align the North with Stannis, then I bet they would go look for him.
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Also, none of those people have a clue where Rickon is, unlike Manderly did
That's the issue though. I guess for Davos to go after Rickon, some northerner (probably an Umber since Rickon was headed to Last Hearth) will have to tell Sansa whereabouts Rickon is thought to be.
Keep in mind that Rickon was headed to house Umber and not to Skagos like in the book, so it would be more likely for someone to relate that to Sansa since House Umber is loyal to the Starks.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:16 pm to Bamatab
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But Sansa knows now. So I'm guessing if Sansa tells Stannis that she wants Rickon found before she agrees to align the North with Stannis, then I bet they would go look for him.
Would telling Stannis about Bran and Rickon be a good move for Sansa?
It seems like a lot of Sansa's power and worth right now is based on the fact it's widely believed that she's the last Stark and the heir to Winterfell.
If she tells Stannis that Bran and Rickon are alive and where to find Rickon she weakens her position since both of her brothers are ahead of her in the line of succession for Winterfell.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:20 pm to Napoleon
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we have three options.
Getting stabbed is a definite it will happen
Option 1. In true GRRM fashion. Jon dies and is dead and that's it. Not R+L=J, no resurrection. He dies and is burnt. Though who would be the POV for the wall? So this is the least likely. Though Samwell did get laid, so odd things can happen.
Option 2. Which most consider the most likely. Is that he is stabbed and dies, and the Lord of Light through the Red Priest revives him. A lot would have to happen to get there, and IF we see any clip of Bedric, we know it's gong that way.
Option 3. He is stabbed but not killed. He is just badly wounded and recovers.
Option 4. Lazarus Pits. Jon is the new Ra's al Ghul.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:25 pm to LSUGrad00
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It seems like a lot of Sansa's power and worth right now is based on the fact it's widely believed that she's the last Stark and the heir to Winterfell.
I don't think she cares. Power or position has never ended well for her
Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:35 pm to LSUGrad00
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If she tells Stannis that Bran and Rickon are alive and where to find Rickon she weakens her position since both of her brothers are ahead of her in the line of succession for Winterfell.
As WTC93 has stated she doesn't care about the power she doesn't even want it.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:38 pm to LSUGrad00
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If she tells Stannis that Bran and Rickon are alive and where to find Rickon she weakens her position since both of her brothers are ahead of her in the line of succession for Winterfell.
Seeing how they are her brothers who so obviously misses, I'm guessing she could give a crap about ruling Winterfell. Plus it's not Dorne, so she can't really rule Winterfell alone since she's not male.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:38 pm to Byron Bojangles III
I WANT TO BE QUEEN
Joffery.
I DONT WANT TO BE QUEEEN
Tyrion
I DONT WANT TO BE IN KINGSLANDING
Robyn
I WANT TO GO HOME
Ramsey rape
Girl just can't catch a break
Joffery.
I DONT WANT TO BE QUEEEN
Tyrion
I DONT WANT TO BE IN KINGSLANDING
Robyn
I WANT TO GO HOME
Ramsey rape
Girl just can't catch a break
Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:40 pm to wildtigercat93
I'm thinking option number 2 is looking more and more appealing as the show goes on. She's shouldn't have so quick to shun that magic imp dick.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:42 pm to Bamatab
That divorce wasn't really her fault ;lol:
Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:53 pm to PsychTiger
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In true GRRM fashion. Jon dies and is dead and that's it.
I still find it funny that people think this is his fashion. Aside from Ned sans head and the Red Wedding, he has not killed off any significant POV characters that I can think of and he has given us a number of instances where we are left thinking the character is dead and you flip ahead to see if they have any more chapters and see that they do.
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