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re: Game of Thrones 2:2, SPOILERS HERE - FOR ALL BOOK READERS
Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:19 pm to CottonWasKing
Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:19 pm to CottonWasKing
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Roose, no Ramsey. I gotcha. They must be leaving out the majority of Bran's storyline this season then. Horrible idea imo
and Theon......perhaps they will stop Theon's story at the taking of Winterfell and not cover the sacking of it by the Boltons.
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:29 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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perhaps they will stop Theon's story at the taking of Winterfell and not cover the sacking of it by the Boltons.
The thing is Jojen and Meera are supposed to be there for all of that.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:33 pm to CottonWasKing
Its one of the main things for Jojen's green seer credibility....
The whole ocean spilling over the walls thing.
The whole ocean spilling over the walls thing.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:35 pm to Siderophore
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Its one of the main things for Jojen's green seer credibility.... The whole ocean spilling over the walls thing.
Jojen is arguably THE most important non POV character in the whole series.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:47 pm to PsychTiger
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If you just want to know about the black pirate and the Queen, I'll tell you this. Davos, being the great smuggler he is, sneaks him into Kings Landing where he captures Joffrey and makes him watch as he violates Cersei again and again and again. As she has now gone black and can never go back, Cersei joins forces with Stannis.
Davos, the white guy? So, you're saying Davos captures Joffrey and makes him watch Salladhor or himself? You lost me there. How does he "persuade" her?
As for the thread, I have the superhuman ability to avoid all other posts but the specific one I'm looking for. It's the message board equivalent of putting my fingers in my ears and going "la la la la la la la la!"
Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:52 pm to CottonWasKing
Eh
He isn't in yet, but I think it will be Howland Reed by the end.
Or Stannis.
But my money is on Reed
He isn't in yet, but I think it will be Howland Reed by the end.
Or Stannis.
But my money is on Reed
Posted on 4/9/12 at 10:11 pm to CottonWasKing
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Of course it is which is why I said
And why I used an example of something that could have been a huge breaking point in the story, something that GRRM spent multiple chapters explaining, only for him to kill off in a heartbeat. A reason why I don't think him explaining greyscale, which could probably be summed down into two whole pages, as a VERY BIG part in the upcoming books.
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and also why I made sure to specify that. I never said it wasn't a big deal. You said that. Which you seem to want to ignore.
No. You tried to claim that Quentyn's chapters were less important than Connington's knowing the fact that Quentyn died without much of a purpose to the overall books. Hence, why you typed the following.
quote:Trying to downplay Quentyn's role, that could have been huge, and prop up Connington's role which can either be a easily dispatched or have a lasting effect on the 7 kingdoms, all because Connington's fate is still up in the air. This is something you can easily try to defend when you know the outcome of Quentyns part in the books and not Conningtons.
He also wasn't the guy responsible for another claimant to the crown either though was he?
quote:I never said anything was boring to read. That was you my friend. I said Quentyn's part in the book was pretty much worthless after you read his conclusion. And the same may be said for Connington when the next book comes out.
and just because something is boring reading doesn't mean it won't eventually be important.
ETA: The way Aegon turned into such a headstrong character towards the end, I have a feeling Connington's role is going to be minimal in the next book anyways. I can definitely see Aegon dismissing him, not listening to his council, etc, on the march to Storm's End.
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 4/9/12 at 10:17 pm to blueboy
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Davos, the white guy? So, you're saying Davos captures Joffrey and makes him watch Salladhor or himself? You lost me there. How does he "persuade" her?
Yeah Davos. He's an expert smuggler. That's how he got the nickname the Onion Knight and also why Stannis cut off his fingers which he now keeps in a pouch around his neck (aka, his Luck). Davos smuggles Salladhor into King's Landing where Cersei is immune to Salladhor's powers of seduction. I mean, she's a bit of a slut anyway and she has of course heard tales of the colored mans' "prowess".
Posted on 4/10/12 at 2:42 am to PsychTiger
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Yeah Davos. He's an expert smuggler. That's how he got the nickname the Onion Knight and also why Stannis cut off his fingers which he now keeps in a pouch around his neck (aka, his Luck). Davos smuggles Salladhor into King's Landing where Cersei is immune to Salladhor's powers of seduction. I mean, she's a bit of a slut anyway and she has of course heard tales of the colored mans' "prowess".
Thanks. Figured it was something like that. Guess the "white guy humiliation cuckold porn" concept gets to make it to the mainstream. Strangely seems like someone's weird agenda. Even stranger, but I'd mentioned how funny I thought this was to the same girl who suggested I watch this show - during the same conversation in which she suggested it.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 8:50 am to joeyb147
One thing that has bothered me after reading ADWD is what Qwentyn had to offer Dany. Wouldn't she assume she has Dorne on her side regardless? She is the daughter of a Dornish Princess who had 2 children (allegedly) murdered by the current regime. Now, "Aegon" throws a kink in this plan, but I'd imagine if he never showed up, the Sand Snakes would pretty much start a revolution in favor of Dany.
Speaking of "Aegon", I'm in the Blackfyre camp. There was a post on A Forum of Ice and Fire about a story told at the Quiet Isle by a Septon to Brienne about an iron dragon sign that was black that washed up on the shore red with rust. I think it was a prophecy/story of "Aegon" being a Blackfyre but washing ashore as a Targaryan.
Speaking of "Aegon", I'm in the Blackfyre camp. There was a post on A Forum of Ice and Fire about a story told at the Quiet Isle by a Septon to Brienne about an iron dragon sign that was black that washed up on the shore red with rust. I think it was a prophecy/story of "Aegon" being a Blackfyre but washing ashore as a Targaryan.
This post was edited on 4/10/12 at 8:53 am
Posted on 4/10/12 at 8:54 am to DestrehanTiger
They have a lot of prophecies in the book that I've heard about especially by that dumb shite PatchFace. apparently everything he says is a foreshadowing of an important event to come
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:00 am to DestrehanTiger
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She is the daughter of a Dornish Princess who had 2 children (allegedly) murdered by the current regime.
Princess Elia was Rhaegar's wife, so Aegon would be her son, (if it were really him). Dany's mother was Aerys' sister/wife. Rhaella, maybe? She's Targ on both sides.
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Speaking of "Aegon", I'm in the Blackfyre camp. There was a post on A Forum of Ice and Fire about a story told at the Quiet Isle by a Septon to Brienne about an iron dragon sign that was black that washed up on the shore red with rust. I think it was a prophecy/story of "Aegon" being a Blackfyre but washing ashore as a Targaryan.
I had forgotten that. Interesting. AFFC?
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:02 am to shinerfan
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Princess Elia was Rhaegar's wife, so Aegon would be her son, (if it were really him). Dany's mother was Aerys' sister/wife. Rhaella, maybe? She's Targ on both sides.
Damn, you're right. I wasn't thinking.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:15 am to shinerfan
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I had forgotten that. Interesting. AFFC?
Yeah, it's somewhere in AFFC. The story could have been more transparent if they kept AFFC and ADWD together like originally planned. Since they were split up into 2 books, the story and the reveal of "Aegon" didn't seem to be as obvious.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:39 am to CottonWasKing
I think the bottom line with characters that may end up being cut out or consolidated is that there is just no way to make a straight up literal translation of the book into the series and not have it go on for a decade or more.
Heck, I'm pretty sure even Band of Brothers had people/characters consolidated or actions done by several different people ascribed to a few. And that worked out pretty damned good.
Of course we can all agree or disagree on who is an who is not indispensable or what plot points can not be done away with. That's part of the fun of board like this. But so far, I can't argue with the results at all.
Heck, I'm pretty sure even Band of Brothers had people/characters consolidated or actions done by several different people ascribed to a few. And that worked out pretty damned good.
Of course we can all agree or disagree on who is an who is not indispensable or what plot points can not be done away with. That's part of the fun of board like this. But so far, I can't argue with the results at all.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:50 am to Methuselah
The difference is that BoB the setting was just the backdrop.
The setting/events do play a larger role here.
It's why you get non readers coming on TD after going "Who? What? When?"
Series is a little TOO condensed.
The setting/events do play a larger role here.
It's why you get non readers coming on TD after going "Who? What? When?"
Series is a little TOO condensed.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 11:01 am to Methuselah
If they haven't cast the Reeds yet, the writers may give their parts to Osha or they may split book two into two seasons, leaving the takeover of Winterfell for the third season.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 11:59 am to Bard
Doubtful.
And episode 8 of this season is entitled "The Prince of Winterfell"
And episode 8 of this season is entitled "The Prince of Winterfell"
Posted on 4/10/12 at 12:19 pm to Siderophore
For those worried about greyscale for some reason, that could be explained in literally one line from a character. "That bum has greyscale. Its a disease and its scary." The end.
The Reeds not being cast still bugs me though.
The Reeds not being cast still bugs me though.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 3:28 pm to Siderophore
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And episode 8 of this season is entitled "The Prince of Winterfell"
Awesome.
But speaking of the Iron Island storyline, it seems Theon's uncle Damphair was never cast for the show. I'm a little bummed by that.
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