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re: FROM (MGM+) SEASON 4 OFFICIAL DISCUSSION THREAD (This show needs watchers!)
Posted on 6/5/26 at 12:51 pm to Yeti_Chaser
Posted on 6/5/26 at 12:51 pm to Yeti_Chaser
My gf and I watched Sphere and The Abyss a few days ago as a back-to-back underwater double feature.
In this latest episode when Boyd is talking about how the entities take people's nightmares/fears and manifest them onto the people, we commented to each other how that was kind of like what happens in Sphere.
Then, like the next scene, when Boyd is intensely trying to resuscitate Donna, and she miraculously comes back, we commented on how that scene was almost exactly like the scene we had just watched in The Abyss where Virgil resuscitates Lindsey. We were laughing about how similar it was.
Weird.
In this latest episode when Boyd is talking about how the entities take people's nightmares/fears and manifest them onto the people, we commented to each other how that was kind of like what happens in Sphere.
Then, like the next scene, when Boyd is intensely trying to resuscitate Donna, and she miraculously comes back, we commented on how that scene was almost exactly like the scene we had just watched in The Abyss where Virgil resuscitates Lindsey. We were laughing about how similar it was.
Weird.
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Posted on 6/7/26 at 1:27 am to Funky Tide 8
That’s a hell of an episode
Henry is just hallucinating right
Henry is just hallucinating right
Posted on 6/7/26 at 1:35 am to CP3forMVP
Boyd should be able to deduce Sophia is a snitch
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:57 am to CP3forMVP
Welp Miranda theory confirmed. I was wrong.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:53 am to Athanatos
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:38 am to CP3forMVP
Damn that episode had my blood pressure up. I was sure Kenny was done.
I had a theory that the man in yellow tailed with someone else like Sophia did with the pastor. I guess I was wrong about that.
I had a theory that the man in yellow tailed with someone else like Sophia did with the pastor. I guess I was wrong about that.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 11:40 am
Posted on 6/7/26 at 3:43 pm to dyslexiateechur
Fatima being able to impact Smiley was a bit unexpected, I thought Kenny was a goner.
So we now know the dolls and the Night People are different things since the stakes harm one but not the other (although the milkman's reaction was a fun temporary swerve).
Does MiY communicate with the Night People? If so, then they must know the plan. If the stakes don't hurt them, does that change Boyd's plan?
So we now know the dolls and the Night People are different things since the stakes harm one but not the other (although the milkman's reaction was a fun temporary swerve).
Does MiY communicate with the Night People? If so, then they must know the plan. If the stakes don't hurt them, does that change Boyd's plan?
Posted on 6/7/26 at 5:45 pm to Bard
I read someone state that at least on screen Victor has not seen Sophia. Can anyone track that? Other theories state Sophia is a former member of the town (some think you can see her when Miranda is driving into town), but assuming she is one would think Victor will recognize her at some point
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:06 pm to CocomoLSU
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It could be cool if the "everyone has power here, you just have to learn to control it" thing were true, or at least to some degree.
the Old Maid theory is interesting. There is an old Whitman Old Maid card game deck that pretty much has all the night monsters on the cards. The theory is that Victor had a deck and the night monsters are his creation and that is how he survived.
I think this last episode kind of blew that up being that the totems didn't do anything to the night monsters but will knock down the dolls and the MiY creations (or so we assume). Maybe the dolls are the MiY creations and the totem staffs hurt them but won't hurt the nightmare manifestations.
Im not sure where this show goes. It seems they are closer to an ending than they were so im not sure how to drag it out 14 more episodes to get to the end if they even go one more season.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:16 pm to Warfarer
Another filler episode untl last 10 minutes. Show is dragging on.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:01 pm to CP3forMVP
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Boyd should be able to deduce Sophia is a snitch
He told everyone his plans by going to each house off screen. Not sure he will be able to figure it out unless there was one person specifically that he didn't tell they had talismans in the bus since that's the only spot they weren't guarding. But they would've made sure to point that out on screen if that was the case I think
So we learned that the totems work for the dolls but not the monsters. Kinda surprising that they would've been created just for the dolls. I'm betting they still have another use, maybe other things coming from the lake. And we learned that the talismans work for the monsters but not the dolls.
Sophia doesn't seem all that bright. She knew they had the totems and still went through with the Roger plan anyway. Seems like she should've waited until there were no totems at colony house or at least removed it before dark. Her plan completely failed as everyone survived and they eliminated the Roger threat and learned what the totems can and can't do.
Fatima being able to influence smiley is interesting. Wonder if that'll come back to bite them and work in the opposite direction later?
I think Sophia is trying to make Victor think he's in a coma and this is all a dream. It will definitely be a repeat of Boyd's wife trying to wake everyone up by killing them all.
I'm not sure what to make of the teeth. Why does the MIY collect them?
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:59 pm to Yeti_Chaser
Really good episode tonight, I really thought we were going to get a slaughter tonight. I wonder if Sophia’s plan wasn’t to try and kill as many possible but to instill more doubt at the idea of resurrections? Considering she brought that guy back from the dead in the same body and didn’t seem too upset when it was taken down almost immediately.
Is Kenny being a child sports administrator a clue or mean something of importance? He could’ve been anything but to work with children when the episode was about telling the town that two members keep getting reincarnated to save the children is pretty interesting.
I’m sure Fatima’s new power will come back to bite her but she would be extremely valuable as a look out when the group heads to the tunnels. Speaking of her, I’m ready to see the mud thing in action.
When Victor told Tabitha he had to do something scary I really thought he was going to take mushrooms next. It’s really bugging me we don’t know more about the sister at this point, I’m guessing we get some sort of reveal bomb in the finale and that sets us up for next season.
I like how everyone is sharing everything with each other and yet this time it’s probably not so bright to tell people they’re stuck in purgatory (or whatever) because of two people. Shocked there wasn’t more anger.
Victor’s dad going crazy and shooting people and shouting it’s all a dream just seems too obvious. I’m curious how they spin this situation.
Side note, I recently restarted Lost. I will no longer be complaining about the pace of this show, I love Lost but it takes quite a while to start getting the ball rolling on what the island is about.
Is Kenny being a child sports administrator a clue or mean something of importance? He could’ve been anything but to work with children when the episode was about telling the town that two members keep getting reincarnated to save the children is pretty interesting.
I’m sure Fatima’s new power will come back to bite her but she would be extremely valuable as a look out when the group heads to the tunnels. Speaking of her, I’m ready to see the mud thing in action.
When Victor told Tabitha he had to do something scary I really thought he was going to take mushrooms next. It’s really bugging me we don’t know more about the sister at this point, I’m guessing we get some sort of reveal bomb in the finale and that sets us up for next season.
I like how everyone is sharing everything with each other and yet this time it’s probably not so bright to tell people they’re stuck in purgatory (or whatever) because of two people. Shocked there wasn’t more anger.
Victor’s dad going crazy and shooting people and shouting it’s all a dream just seems too obvious. I’m curious how they spin this situation.
Side note, I recently restarted Lost. I will no longer be complaining about the pace of this show, I love Lost but it takes quite a while to start getting the ball rolling on what the island is about.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:03 am to Yeti_Chaser
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He told everyone his plans by going to each house off screen. Not sure he will be able to figure it out unless there was one person specifically that he didn't tell they had talismans in the bus since that's the only spot they weren't guarding. But they would've made sure to point that out on screen if that was the case I think
So we learned that the totems work for the dolls but not the monsters. Kinda surprising that they would've been created just for the dolls. I'm betting they still have another use, maybe other things coming from the lake. And we learned that the talismans work for the monsters but not the dolls.
Sophia doesn't seem all that bright. She knew they had the totems and still went through with the Roger plan anyway. Seems like she should've waited until there were no totems at colony house or at least removed it before dark. Her plan completely failed as everyone survived and they eliminated the Roger threat and learned what the totems can and can't do.
Fatima being able to influence smiley is interesting. Wonder if that'll come back to bite them and work in the opposite direction later?
I think Sophia is trying to make Victor think he's in a coma and this is all a dream. It will definitely be a repeat of Boyd's wife trying to wake everyone up by killing them all.
I'm not sure what to make of the teeth. Why does the MIY collect them?
There's not that many houses was my point. I'm sure all the houses have people, but on screen wise the only two that we know are being used is Sara and Tabitha. Then there's the two houses between the pool and the church. Kenny and his mothers house is directly across from the post office, but I'm unsure if anyone lives there? Seems like Kenny spends most of his time at Colony House. We're talking about a pretty small set of people all things considered, the vast majority being people I'm sure Boyd trusts.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:11 am to CP3forMVP
Yea it's very possible that he at least becomes suspicious of the only new person. Guess she expected Boyd to die from the monsters last night. Man her plan really completely failed
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:53 am to Yeti_Chaser
I dont think her plan completely failed. The whole goal for Sophie is to cause division within the group and that night was the catalyst for that to happen.
1. Everyone knows the talismans dont work on all the monsters and the false sense of safety is gone now. When that happens, society tends to fall apart and people dont think rationally and act up.
2. Boyd will reflect on how the monsters knew about the attack. Him asking about the MiY, leads me to believe he will eventually find out the MiY is among them and ratted out the plan. Based on his interrogation history with Elgin, I believe he’ll start questioning people at first and then the torture story will come out where people will either side with Boyd or against him with Henry leading the opposing faction.
So despite there being no fatalities from that night, the ball has started rolling on creating real division within the community.
1. Everyone knows the talismans dont work on all the monsters and the false sense of safety is gone now. When that happens, society tends to fall apart and people dont think rationally and act up.
2. Boyd will reflect on how the monsters knew about the attack. Him asking about the MiY, leads me to believe he will eventually find out the MiY is among them and ratted out the plan. Based on his interrogation history with Elgin, I believe he’ll start questioning people at first and then the torture story will come out where people will either side with Boyd or against him with Henry leading the opposing faction.
So despite there being no fatalities from that night, the ball has started rolling on creating real division within the community.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:09 am to Yeti_Chaser
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I'm not sure what to make of the teeth. Why does the MIY collect them?
Maybe that's who he impersonates? After he kills off everyone he takes a tooth or two from each one to impersonate them in order to infiltrate the next round of victims brought in.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:55 am to Bard
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I'm not sure what to make of the teeth. Why does the MIY collect them?
I think the impersonation factor could be it but I don’t remember the MiY using a tooth before or during the time he changed into Sophie.
I just think it is something he does to remember his victims by similar to what some serial killers do, but I feel by keeping them it will cause his demise.
In a separate but related note, I was thinking how the town could return home through retrieving the children’s bones and dumping them into the lake of tears.
If the lake of tears brings them back to
life once their bones are dumped there, then I think their nightmares will disappear from this world. This is based off of the idea that people’s nightmares come to life when they die.
As more people get saved/resurrected, less nightmares would exist in this world .
Since the teeth the MiY collected are physical remains of the people who lived there before, then maybe the same concept of saving the children applies to them?
Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:45 am to jevins_slickin
I like it. Maybe the bird coming back to life will give them the clue.
I don't think Henry is leading anything though. I still think it'll be Kenny. Henry is going to lose his mind and try to kill everyone and Boyd may end up having to put him down which will add to that wedge between the residents
I don't think Henry is leading anything though. I still think it'll be Kenny. Henry is going to lose his mind and try to kill everyone and Boyd may end up having to put him down which will add to that wedge between the residents
This post was edited on 6/8/26 at 11:48 am
Posted on 6/8/26 at 1:32 pm to Yeti_Chaser
This weeks episode had me thinking that everyone in the town is actually comatose in a medical facility sharing a dream as part of some experiment. I think Victor showing up in that world as a doctor ended that but I’m not certain.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 1:39 pm to MississippiLebowski
I don't think Victor was a doctor in that scene. I think he was just a normal version of himself visiting his father in a nursing home.
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