re: FROM (MGM+) SEASON 4 OFFICIAL DISCUSSION THREAD (This show needs watchers!)

This is the issue with a show like this after a few seasons. Same thing even happened in Lost. The viewer knows the messed up situation the characters are in, we don’t need them screaming at each other that their ideas are crazy or something just isn’t possible. We are in a universe where creatures come out every night, dolls come to life, an old man in yellow is now a sneaky hot chick, ghost kids pushing women out of towers, etc.

how many f-bombs did the black dude need to drop at my favorite lesbo couple

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Joni Mitchell “Blue” on the diner radio. Was Miranda’s favorite song.

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Like you, I also needed that reminder. It made the last hospital scene make more sense with the "grandson" playing the song and Henry popping out of it right after the song cut off due to losing connectivity.

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I like Marielle’s theory about it not being a bad thing and maybe they should be focusing on how they can use it. Of course Kristi hates it. I assume her shitty haircut is affecting her brain.

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at the haircut comment.

I was annoyed AF at Kriti's response. I've never met a medical professional who would shite on someone like that for trying to keep the patient's hopes up. But then, at the end of the episode, we find out that Fatima's vitals indicate she shouldn't even be alive. My guess is that doing what she did takes a direct physical toll on her, we just don't know if she recovers from it or not... yet.

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It feels like Ellis and Fatima shouldn’t be married. It always feels like they don’t even care about each other and feels fake. Especially from him. But that may be bc he’s a shitty actor. Every time they’re in a scene just the two of them it makes me want to gauge my eyes out.

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I couldn't possibly agree more. Every time they are on-screen together I have to pointedly remind myself they are a couple because there's about as much warmth and compassion being expressed as that of two Roombas circling each other.

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The morning after everyone died and victor came out of the root cellar was the first time he saw the BiW. He told him he’d need three things:
1. Food. Victors truck was filled with canned peaches. He also ate plants and bugs. But peaches are plants, so whatever.
2. Pretend you aren’t alone. Bc it’s scarier when you aren’t lonely.
3. ??

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When Victor first mentions this, I think to myself that this is going to be important but we're not going to find out what they are until it's too late. Then he goes through the first two points and I'm waiting there like a rottweiler fixated on its favorite toy, waiting for Point 3 aaaand... they fricked us on it. It's going to be important, but because Miranda would rather be a stupid count-waffle flopping back and forth between knowing what's likely to come yet still doing her damnedest to deny it, we don't get what is likely to be the most important survival idea.

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The whole “I was Miranda” thing confuses me. I know Tabitha isn’t literally Victor’s mom. But who is she really? Is she just here “as” Tabitha in this iteration of her bring here?

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I look at it as she's primarily the current person, but gets growing access to the memories of her former self. As such, she would have stronger attachment to her current kids with the previous ones feeling more like "someone else's". Victor still being alive has to be a bit of a conundrum for her as well as he's her kid but isn't (unless she were to really dwell in Miranda's memories).

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So the nurse in Henry’s dream is telling him he has to kill Victor I guess.

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Yes, I think MiY sees Victor as a bit of a threat. It may be that no one has ever survived through a culling before and Victor's presence is why Jade and Tabitha are doing some things differently this time. At the same time, it also seems to entertain him.

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MiY to Tabitha “you don’t remember that part yet.” about knowing who he is. Tells her she and Jade are doing well. And that Jade digging up the bones could be the key to setting the children free and sending hers home, or that “it could unleash the type of suffering you can’t even begin to imagine.”

So maybe the bones is the right way to go since it seems like MiY is pretty anti them doing it and trying to scare her about them doing it.

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The fact that he called her out to the RV for a little tête-à-tête makes me believe he's NOT wanting them to actually succeed in digging up the bones. He may be wanting them to just try to unleash the horror of the night people capturing them then torturing/killing them over the course of days (the survivors hearing their screams throughout the nights). Maybe they even turn a couple of them into night people? How tough would it be on the remaining townspeople for Donna to be one of the turned ones trying to get someone to open a door or window? Or Ellis?

For some reason I feel like their taking down the bottle tree would be a bad idea, but I can't say exactly why.

Digging in was my thought also. Didn’t they mention getting into the chamber, sealing the door, and using a talisman to keep the monsters out?

I saw it finally got picked up by Netflix. That should massively increase the viewers. Maybe they can use some of that money to increase their wig budget.

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I saw it finally got picked up by Netflix.

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Really? That is outstanding news.

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Best episode of the season.

Make sure to check out the prior season discussion threads through your watch. They were a nice resource to have.

No prior setup with this Clara character was pretty lame.

Seems like they're really close with the bones but they're gonna frick it up with the bottle tree. Sophia is gonna have to go into the tunnels to stop them herself if the talisman works.

I would hope someone would inspect the rope ladder prior to using it too.

Fun episode. Still no golem payoff

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The eye thing was cool. But what was MiY’s deal with this chubby chick? Have we seen that or is that an offscreen thing? Seems like the latter.

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Pretty sure it was off-screen, which makes it pretty lame, but at the same time, we'd be asking every week for the payoff to their deal.

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Sophia says digging up the bones is “the right idea of course.” Says it’s not gonna work out well. “This place is built on rituals and how you do something is just as important as what you do.”

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Sophia/MiY went from not caring who was digging up the bones to getting worried real quick after realizing it's just Tabitha and Jade.

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Wait so Julie listens to what Tabitha said and doesn’t mention that she saw MiY kill Jim (or at least the aftermath of it), and actually asks if he’s the one who killed him? And all of a sudden she’s all in on “this place lies and everything is full of shite”? That doesn’t make any sense at all. What happened to her and Randall’s escapades? And she literally has experienced herself visit different times and interacting with things, so she knows it’s more than just “giving herself seizures.” I don’t get what the writers are doing with her all of a sudden.

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Fairly certain the Julie we saw who witnessed Jim's death was from the future. I'm wondering if the events of the finale will force Julie to attempt story walking again to go back and save everyone in season 5.

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Solid episode to set things up for the finale. My wish is that Fatima turns completely into a monster, kills Ethan’s bitch arse, and then murder-suicides herself and Ellis. That would set the final season up really well for me. :fingerscrossed:

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I'm at the point where I dislike every character except Jade and a couple of others. Boyd going off on everyone and constantly ranting has been played out. Fatima and Ellis I never liked. No idea what they're planning with Sara. Don't care for the kids really but I'm sure Julie has some sort of role. Victor just seems like the guy who will sacrifice himself or something for everyone to escape. I can't see him adapting to the real world. I guess I like Kenny.