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re: Disney Marvel: Spider-Man girlfriend Mary Jane Watson to be tortured & killed

Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:42 pm to
Hardly the first time they have tried to drop a bridge on MJ.

Quesada, while editor in chief, pushed the One More Day storyline where Peter and MJ sold off their marriage ever happening to Mephisto (one of the Marvel universe devils) to keep Aunt May alive.

To call that an unpopular storyline with the fan base is an understatement.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:28 am to
This isn't being "woke", it's what happens when you spend decades over-milking a cash cow. For decades he's had multiple books running at the same time (at one point I think there were 4 separate Spiderman comics in print at the same time, and that's not counting guest appearances). You can kill off Aunt May, face the reborn Green Goblin or have some clone/symbiote issue only so many times before people demand something new.

Well... that is... unless you push back to only one title or -gasp!- retire the character for a while.
Posted by Sayre
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:11 am to
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SouthEasternKaiju



quote:

but hey, I'm no expert.



Only sensible thing you've said.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:29 am to
You know the comics division isn't overseen directly by Disney/marvel?
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:32 am to
Where was the outrage when Moira skinned Banshee to infiltrate the base?

Are we only upset because she's now skinning people without power?

You do know it's a one-off? Right?

Mary Jane has been killed before.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:44 am to
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Mary Jane has been killed before.
NOT BY DISNEY SHE HASN'T!
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 9:11 am to
I say that because I am listening to others more informed. I’m not making ish up, as some here have tried to claim.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 9:31 am to
This thread should be on the book board
Posted by mindbreaker
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 10:00 am to
I legitimately believe some of you just wake up looking for something to be outraged about everyday. Your life must suuuuuucccckkkkkkkkkk
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 10:36 am to
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You can kill off Aunt May, face the reborn Green Goblin or have some clone/symbiote issue only so many times before people demand something new.


And thus the real issue with where all of the comic books have gone in the last 30 years...abandoning the illusion of change in favor of wholesale sweeping changes to move the characters forward. It's poison either way for characters that are not supposed to really have anything lasting happen to them.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 11:06 am to
Some just see a bigger picture. You are still too busy looking at the brick wall right in front of your face.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 11:32 am to
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NOT BY DISNEY SHE HASN'T!


Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 11:42 am to
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She might be back alive like nothing ever happened in the next story.


She'll need new skin, so she'll probably be back in black.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:04 pm to
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Some just see a bigger picture.

There’s no bigger picture you’re just making up shite that isn’t there so you can validate your logic
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:05 pm to
You’re doing much better.

But I do feel, since you’ve admitted you are not the source for a lot of your points and opinions, it leaves opportunities for you to not have detailed answers or reasoning. Maybe become an expert before going on a rampage next time. Using details on BOTH sides can help you make your conclusions. And not everyone here knows where you’re looking.

So believe what you want, but understand you have taken belief a step further and are attempting to spread your beliefs. Whatever your purpose, if you have intentions on having conversations about the subject, you should do these things. Or what is the point of even starting the thread?
This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted by ThoseGuys
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:48 pm to
I'm so confused. People are acting like Mary Jane has been killed. She hasn't. The comics have not been released.

Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:55 pm to
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I legitimately believe some of you just wake up looking for something to be outraged about everyday.
No. this guy has legitimate fear. Is his fear justified? I don’t know. But a lot of people are very concerned. I just think OP was unpolished in his delivery and misjudged his audience. I stay out of topics like this mostly. I just hate seeing complete toxicity in a thread unnecessarily.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 1:08 pm to
First of all, remove fear from the equation. It has more to do with disappointment, anger, and frustration. Because all of this is so petty and unnecessarily being done to promote a specific agenda. That’s what so many people are refusing to se are or just not getting. It isn’t the deleting of a side character, it’s the manner in which it’s being done.

What most people don’t understand is that many of these writers absolutely despise their fans. This myth of everyone coming together to enjoy the art of making a comic, shows, or a movies where fans and creators exist in some form of harmony is mostly pure fiction.

Then add the extra ingredient of wokism into the equation. The cult of the left have fully infected the entertainment world and there isn’t a thing that is produced by these people that isn’t hell-bent on promoting their agenda. About their only creative energy is dreaming up ways to screw up that which already exists. Nothing else.

And sure, I will say my message may be “unpolished”. That too is on purpose. I’m not worried about converting or swaying minds. I’m just throwing it out there regardless of who the audience may be. Take it or leave it, this is what I see going on.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 1:17 pm to
So your intentions are to say “this is what I believe is going on. It sucks. But I have no intentions of doing anything to change it. I do not care how my points come across. I just want to tell people they are wrong and I am right”

Am I close?
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 1:53 pm to
I want to verify. Your issue with this stems from your belief that the left has been effects comic books and injecting woke ideology into them. That too many people are brushing it aside instead of focusing on what a political group is doing to a semi mainstream entertainment venue.

Am I close? I want to make sure we are having a similar conversation. It isn't about Mary Jane herself, or the storyline specifically but rather the larger narrative pushed by the left.
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