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Posted on 3/3/21 at 3:44 pm to OMLandshark
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many people say is one of the ten greatest films ever made
Many people are wrong.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 5:46 pm to Jack Ruby
Can we just all agree that Avatar was basically just a high budget, CGI remake of DWW?
Posted on 3/3/21 at 6:15 pm to Jack Ruby
Costner was great in it. Didn't care for Mary McDonnell. She just wasn't convincing to me in that part. Plenty of actress's/actors have portrayed a white man/woman captured by Indians and raised by Native Americans much better than she did.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 7:59 pm to YNWA
They apparently had Julia Robertsiof they wanted her for the Mary McDonnell part, but Costner said they had no on screen chemistry so they went with Mary.
I'm not a fan of McDonnell in the part either, but I simply can't see Julia Roberts in that part at all. It would seem too cartoonish with her in it.
If she got it, though, who knows if she would have gotten Pretty Woman (same year release) and her career could have been much much different.
I'm not a fan of McDonnell in the part either, but I simply can't see Julia Roberts in that part at all. It would seem too cartoonish with her in it.
If she got it, though, who knows if she would have gotten Pretty Woman (same year release) and her career could have been much much different.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 3/3/21 at 8:18 pm to YNWA
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Plenty of actress's/actors have portrayed a white man/woman captured by Indians and raised by Native Americans much better than she did.
How would you rank your top 10?
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:22 pm to Jack Ruby
Soldier fart
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:08 pm to mattz1122
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:03 am to Jack Ruby
Yeah. Can't see Julia Roberts in that role. I was thinking maybe a more homely, old west looking actress like Sissy Spacek or something.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 8:33 am to Jack Ruby
I don't think I have ever had the opportunity to watch the directors cut, but what was different about from the theatrical release?
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:09 am to Kracka
quote:There are a good many either additional scenes or extended sequences that were trimmed to get the run time down for the theatrical release.
I don't think I have ever had the opportunity to watch the directors cut, but what was different about from the theatrical release
I think it is something like nearly 40 new scenes and 15 extended scenes, as well as reordering some of the scenes.
Among the additional things that I can remember... you see the previous Army battalion at Fort Sedgewick when they leave it; the Lakota find the white men who massacre the buffalo and kill them; you see more of the major at Fort Hayes who has lost his mind; you find out why Stands With A Fist is in mourning; longer scene of Stands With A Fist being kidnapped
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:15 am to Jack Ruby
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But judged solely as a cimeatic feat, it's magnificent.
Meh - it's a mediocre epic with some good moments.
It's one part Little Big Man, two parts Fergully. It's attractively shot. Costner was trying too hard to be Clint Eastwood at that point in his career (and it showed). Much like Titanic, it suffered from poor acting out of the romantic leads. The supporting cast, particularly the actors portraying natives, was excellent and really saved the movie (as the supporting cast attempted to do in Titanic and Armageddon).
The score was great. The pacing was off, overall direction was just off.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 11:22 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:30 am to YNWA
quote:She was fantastic.
Didn't care for Mary McDonnell. She just wasn't convincing to me in that part.
quote:List?
Plenty of actress's/actors have portrayed a white man/woman captured by Indians and raised by Native Americans much better than she did.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:23 pm to skrayper
I always like Costner in Fandango.
Or maybe I just really liked Fandango.
Or maybe I just really liked Fandango.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:55 pm to PJinAtl
quote:I don't know that I'd want to see more of Major Fambrough's character. I thought the way the released film handled his brief appearance was perfect.
you see more of the major at Fort Hayes who has lost his mind
Initially, you see him seated behind his desk, and he appears very much an officer despite his somewhat unkempt appearance (it was the West, and those uniforms were probably pretty stifling). He regards Dunbar with the haughty disdain one would expect of someone who had, in his words, "ascended to this post".
It's only until he reaches for his desk drawer - and you hear the unmistakable clink of several empty bottles - that you realize he is hopelessly alcoholic, or worse. I thought it was very well done.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:22 pm to Ace Midnight
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It's one part Little Big Man, two parts Fergully.
Or perhaps FernGully is two parts Dances With Wolves seeing as the latter film was released two years before the former.
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Much like Titanic, it suffered from poor acting out of the romantic leads. The supporting cast, particularly the actors portraying natives, was excellent and really saved the movie (as the supporting cast attempted to do in Titanic and Armageddon).
I'm sure the two leads of Titanic were devasted at how they and the supporting cast failed to save the movie. It only scored 11 Academy Awards and $2.2 billion in box office revenue as it bombed its way through 14 straight weeks atop the box office.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:59 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Would've been a more compelling film if it didn't portray the Natives as helpless pacifists. There was a concerted effort obviously to rebuke old Westerns and the antagonistic savage Indian but it went too far in neutering them.
Felt this way until o just finished watching extended cut. The scene they add about John seeing the wagon with chopped hand and hair from Indians killing white hunters showed their savagery due to incompatibilities
Posted on 7/28/25 at 11:41 pm to Jack Ruby
Final act of Goodfellas just isn't great. Find myself turning the channel about 70% through the movie.
Love DWW top to bottom.
Love DWW top to bottom.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:14 am to Frac the world
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It’s top 3 for me.
I will not put it that high on my list but I love the movie. I love the music and the overall feel of it.
Ive watched it a lot of times and still cant pass it up
I dont break movies down as deep as some of you guys. It has good acting, a good background and makes me feel good. Im easily entertained
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:28 am to WinnPtiger
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Goodfellas is a cartoon compared to DWW
WTF? Goodfellas is a brilliant movie. Also, those complaining about making the natives too gentle and not warlike enough:
Remember that scene?
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