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kciDAtaE
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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
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Were you dropped on your head?


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TigrrrDad
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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
It’s easily one of my top 10 favorites, and it’s better than Goodfellas. Period.


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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
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Would've been a more compelling film if it didn't portray the Natives as helpless pacifists.
Um, an entire sequence of the film is dedicated to showing the Pawnee attack the Sioux - presumably just to take land and dominate...


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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
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Would've been a more compelling film if it didn't portray the Natives as helpless pacifists.

I mean, they did portray inter tribal warfare. The film is a "going native" story. Also, it is told from his point of view and he obviously bought into the culture of the tribe that he adopted/that adopted him. I don't think they could have gone too far in adding negative elements to the tribe without making him seem totally naïve.

Your broader point has validity. Hollywood went from "Indians all bad" to "white people bad" when neither was an accurate portrayal.

The movie that handled it pretty well was The Outlaw Josey Wales.


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JinFL
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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
Now I need to watch this again, luckily its on Prime, 3hr epic.


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skrayper
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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
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It was fantastic. Simply. I loved it and have never looked at it in a negative way


Not even sure why anyone would



Agreed.

It and Field of Dreams are definitely Costner's best works, IMHO.


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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
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And I like the extended version even more.
. The extended version explains why it was deserted and why the weirdo at the frontier town was so f’ed up. It was worthwhile.


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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
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Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite


Does it?

I guess I missed it getting shite... I've never thought of it as anything but a classic.


UndercoverBryologist
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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
The only “shit” it gets is from people who make comparisons between it and Goodfellas like people compare Forrest Gump and Pulp Fiction.

Goodfellas and Wolves was more of a legitimate toss-up than Forrest Gump and Pulp Fiction. (By that I mean, the Oscar letdown of Goodfellas losing was more legitimate than Pulp Fiction losing in 1994.)


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Honest Tune
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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
Dances With Wolves is a masterpiece and in my top five... However, it always made me laugh that Costner/Dunbar learned the Sioux language in a few months out there, but Costner couldn’t be bothered to use an English accent in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves after the first 15 minutes.


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TigerMyth36
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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
I like the movie. Hell, I love the score.


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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
Sweeping, panoramic, breathtaking scenery and a comparable score alone made the movie great. Not sure why anyone would even try to compare it to Goodfellas. I wouldn’t have ever even put Goodfellas in the same ring as DWW.


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Gorilla Ball
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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
Agreed and the horse as well.


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drizztiger
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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
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Wind In His Hair at the end gets me every time
Same.


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Tigertown in ATL
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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
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Goodfellas


Speaking of overrated

Good, but not to the extent of the hype.


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abellsujr
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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
I think it’s a great movie. My only gripe with it is that it beat out one of my favorite movies of all time in Goodfellas. And it’s no Goodfellas.


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Look, the film is going to forever be linked (perhaps negatively for a lot of people) to pretty much sweeping out Goodfellas at the 1990 Oscars.


It deserves shite for that forever. Maybe not on its own terms, but a milquetoast film beating what many people say is one of the ten greatest films ever made is somewhat justified.

And with Dances With Wolves general plot line, it’s fricking hollow compared to Princess Mononoke which has the same plot but is absolutely masterful and may be the greatest animated film ever made. So between those two, compared to them it should be shat upon. No problem if you watch it on Netflix with your girlfriend, but I think this lesser property has undermined two masterpieces.


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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
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Costner couldn’t be bothered to use an English accent in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves after the first 15 minutes.


I picture this:
“Cut! Ok, Kevin just use your own voice. The accent isn’t working.”

When Sean Connery appears on screen, we see how bad Costner really is.
He’s appealing but he’s not a good actor.

Yellowstone seems to be perfect for him.


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AlxTgr
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re: Dances With Wolves gets too much undeserved shite
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There is just no other movie like it.
Well, except Avatar and last Samurai.


BTW, I freakin Love this movie.


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