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Posted on 2/19/18 at 1:54 pm to RLDSC FAN
Saw it last night, pleasantly surprised but a couple cons.
#1. The CGI has got to stop. Obviously, it won't but that last fight scene was like watching Mortal Kombat or something, these guys got into terrific fighting shape, let them go at it.
#2. The ending was so lame, "We're gonna build a fake outreach facility that has absolutely nothing to do with the MCU and it's here to put a cherry on the helping black youths tone the movie set". That school isn't actually being built and the majority of the audience was sniffling during that shite.
However, Michael B. Jordan was fantastic, I loved that the movie wasn't 80% jokes like Thor or Guardians of the Galaxy, amazing soundtrack, and great performances all around.
#1. The CGI has got to stop. Obviously, it won't but that last fight scene was like watching Mortal Kombat or something, these guys got into terrific fighting shape, let them go at it.
#2. The ending was so lame, "We're gonna build a fake outreach facility that has absolutely nothing to do with the MCU and it's here to put a cherry on the helping black youths tone the movie set". That school isn't actually being built and the majority of the audience was sniffling during that shite.
However, Michael B. Jordan was fantastic, I loved that the movie wasn't 80% jokes like Thor or Guardians of the Galaxy, amazing soundtrack, and great performances all around.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:40 pm to Kuzuri
Man I swear I saw a different movie than most of you. I am glad to see some people appreciate the movie for what it was, a comic book movie. From some of the comments in this thread, I swear some people didn't even watch this movie, they just want to complain or bash the movie.
I went to an 11:40 am showing today and theatre was probably still 30% full, which is really good for a random Monday afternoon. Most movies I go to around this time (I'm a sucker for matinees) are almost completely empty.
I really enjoyed it. Not the best Marvel movie (as others pointed out about the CGI being an issue and some pacing) but it certainly was up there as far as origin style stories go.
For a movie as long as it was, they weren't going to be able to develop every character, including the side characters, and explore a whole new country. They picked their spots and touched on other stuff.
W'Kabi sided with Killmonger because he killed Klaw, who had killed his parents. It clearly was a big sticking point for him. What I didn't get was why BP didn't just tell everyone that Killmonger is the one who helped Klaw in the first place.
I went to an 11:40 am showing today and theatre was probably still 30% full, which is really good for a random Monday afternoon. Most movies I go to around this time (I'm a sucker for matinees) are almost completely empty.
I really enjoyed it. Not the best Marvel movie (as others pointed out about the CGI being an issue and some pacing) but it certainly was up there as far as origin style stories go.
For a movie as long as it was, they weren't going to be able to develop every character, including the side characters, and explore a whole new country. They picked their spots and touched on other stuff.
W'Kabi sided with Killmonger because he killed Klaw, who had killed his parents. It clearly was a big sticking point for him. What I didn't get was why BP didn't just tell everyone that Killmonger is the one who helped Klaw in the first place.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:51 pm to ThoseGuys
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What I didn't get was why BP didn't just tell everyone that Killmonger is the one who helped Klaw in the first place.
I was wondering the same thing, but maybe at that point it didn't matter since Killmonger had a legitimate claim to the throne regardless?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 4:07 pm to Cap Crunch
Anyone else thought it funny that BP got his power from purple drank?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 4:48 pm to ThoseGuys
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went to an 11:40 am showing today and theatre was probably still 30% full, which is really good for a random Monday afternoon. Most movies I go to around this time (I'm a sucker for matinees) are almost completely empty.
President's day. Lotta kids have the day off
Posted on 2/19/18 at 4:54 pm to Broski
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On the subject of vibranium in Wakanda, was it ever explained how Howard Stark got the supply to make Cap's shield?
It was a gift from T'Challa's grandfather to President Roosevelt in exchange for keeping Wakanda secret.
The SSI (precursor to SHIELD) knew about Wakanda from the start but left them alone. How do you think Tony Stark knew about Wakanda's vibranium? Howard knew. The Nazis tried invading Wakanda and were slaughtered 50 miles from the border. They didn't try again.
I hope they give Shuri her own panther suit in future films (she has one) and bring in a certain white-haired African mutant once Marvel finally gets the rights.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:21 pm to LSUZombie
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Another good part from last night was seeing the Stan Lee cameo and hearing about 3-4 whispers of "who's that?" from the audience.
Better than my theater.
“YEAH MY BOY STAN LEE!!!!!!!”
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:45 pm to ell_13
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Subplot has a bunch of odd family ties with some backstabbing involved and a connection to Oakland of all places.
Symbolism. The actual Black Panther party started in Oakland.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:46 pm to RLDSC FAN
Just got back from it. Wasnt that good, wasnt terrible. some cheesy lines like most comic book movies.
Dont understand what the whole hoopla was over this.
Dont understand what the whole hoopla was over this.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:49 pm to Kuzuri
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However, Michael B. Jordan was fantastic,
I actually thought he sucked, like tried to hard to be ghetto fabulous. Prob was how the character was written, ut i found him annoying.
This was also not knowing he was the actual "bad guy" going in.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 6:51 pm to dgnx6
The action scenes were some of the worst I've ever seen. Whoever edited them must have had his damn finger on the fast forward button the entire time. I get they were trying to set a tone where he moves and fights like this predator, but the shite moved so fast I could barely see what was happening and it even looked like frames were missing.
It made the Transformers and shaky cam shite look good.
Movie overall was entirely meh, which sucks because I loved the Black Panther in Civil War.
It made the Transformers and shaky cam shite look good.
Movie overall was entirely meh, which sucks because I loved the Black Panther in Civil War.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:38 pm to MF Doom
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At one point Danai Guriras characters has a line about guns being primitive yet these frickers elect their king through a fricking deathmatch
I can sort of buy into that. Like they have all the technology to be super developed, but their almost complete isolation from the rest of the world has resulted in the preservation of their culture. Sure, it's a bit of a reach, but I can at least buy into it from the movies point of view.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:43 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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Just got out. I'll just say that I overall enjoyed it. However, the pacing was off. Every actor did well. I don't understand why the blue King turned on tchalla so quickly.
Which one is the blue king again? Is it Daniel Kaluuya? I assume it's partly because he lost faith in Tchalla after failing to kill Klaue, and then it probably didn't help that Killmonger walks in with Klaue's corpse.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:07 pm to ohiovol
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I assume it's partly because he lost faith in Tchalla after failing to kill Klaue, and then it probably didn't help that Killmonger walks in with Klaue's corpse.
"For 30 years your father did nothing. I thought you would be different."
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:21 pm to CptBengal
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except for the entire premise of an African country that wasnt "colonized" and somehow has space travle...but sure.
You mean the literal history from the comics? That triggers you?
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:12 am to The_Joker
Saw BP last night. I liked it. It felt more like a Captain America movie in the sense that it was mostly action and little humor. Some of the CGI did bother me, but it wasn’t distracting overall. The villain was good in the sense that I really hated him and what he stood for. Tchalla was good and I liked his character
Only major issue I had was the anti-white jokes they made. Like calling them colonists or the tribe hooting at agent Ross. You could hear in the theater that only the black people were laughing at those jokes and everyone else was put off by them. Also all the black people left before the first post credits scene (not mad about that, just an observation)
Only major issue I had was the anti-white jokes they made. Like calling them colonists or the tribe hooting at agent Ross. You could hear in the theater that only the black people were laughing at those jokes and everyone else was put off by them. Also all the black people left before the first post credits scene (not mad about that, just an observation)
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:57 am to Upperdecker
I saw it last night. The Rotten Tomatoes rating had me really excited about viewing it but I felt a bit let down leaving the theater. To me they basically just took the plot to The Lion King and made a Marvel movie out of it. I enjoyed it and thought the movie was entertaining, fun, and visually stylistic and cool but it was highly predictable and the fighting scenes were hard to follow at times. I would have to say that I'm in agreement with those saying it's overrated. It may be on pace to be one of the highest reviewed movies of all time on Rotten Tomatoes but I personally wouldn't even put it in the top five Marvel movies of all time.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:10 pm to memphis tiger
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But not nearly as bad as the red neck racists are saying either.
A major studio makes a guaranteed blockbuster motion picture that clearly and openly places implicit blame on white people for Africa’s problems (and every other problem experienced by people of African descent), and people who see something wrong with that are “redneck racists”.
This is why things are going to fall apart.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:21 pm to Monkeyboy
It was good, not great. I honestly think Thor Ragnarok did a better job of critiquing colonialism, mainly because they were able to smuggle it in a movie no one was expecting.
The CGI was terrible, as many have noted. They created this cool futuristic city based on actual African tribes, and then did nothing with it, and punted the detail. Does that capital have just one city street?
T'Challa was sidelined for a third of the movie and I didn't miss him. Now, part of that is that there's no way they are killing the titular character of a tentpole film in the second act, so it was robbed of some of its tension. But also, that speaks highly of the supporting cast, who were almost uniformly terrific. They threaded the needle on Man-Ape and managed to make perhaps the most racist character in comics history not offensive.
But it was a film dominated by the women. Okoye was the bad arse, Nakia (not Killmonger, people) was right all along: Wakanda should share its tech as a middle course between hiding and war against the world. Shuri was the best. And I'm always down for Angela Bassett, though she didn't have a whole lot to do.
For a long movie, it took some narrative shortcuts (not for a second did I buy Okoye's romance with W'Kabi). And W'Kabi's betrayal makes little sense, nor why T'Challa didn't point out Killmonger freed Klaue, so he gets no credit for then killing him. And let's not even talk about how silly their mode of secession is. They train a guy to be a king his whole life, but then someone can take the crown by beating him up? It's a wonder they didn't descend into anarchy.
But it was fun and I liked that Killmonger made sense as a villain. He's not as good as Loki nor was he having as much fun as Hela, but his motives made sense, and fed into his ultimate demise. He's right about Wakanda needing to abandon isolationism, but his anger at everything turns that into a desire for permanent war. It made sense that he would destroy everything he touched, and not just for narrative ease.
The CGI was terrible, as many have noted. They created this cool futuristic city based on actual African tribes, and then did nothing with it, and punted the detail. Does that capital have just one city street?
T'Challa was sidelined for a third of the movie and I didn't miss him. Now, part of that is that there's no way they are killing the titular character of a tentpole film in the second act, so it was robbed of some of its tension. But also, that speaks highly of the supporting cast, who were almost uniformly terrific. They threaded the needle on Man-Ape and managed to make perhaps the most racist character in comics history not offensive.
But it was a film dominated by the women. Okoye was the bad arse, Nakia (not Killmonger, people) was right all along: Wakanda should share its tech as a middle course between hiding and war against the world. Shuri was the best. And I'm always down for Angela Bassett, though she didn't have a whole lot to do.
For a long movie, it took some narrative shortcuts (not for a second did I buy Okoye's romance with W'Kabi). And W'Kabi's betrayal makes little sense, nor why T'Challa didn't point out Killmonger freed Klaue, so he gets no credit for then killing him. And let's not even talk about how silly their mode of secession is. They train a guy to be a king his whole life, but then someone can take the crown by beating him up? It's a wonder they didn't descend into anarchy.
But it was fun and I liked that Killmonger made sense as a villain. He's not as good as Loki nor was he having as much fun as Hela, but his motives made sense, and fed into his ultimate demise. He's right about Wakanda needing to abandon isolationism, but his anger at everything turns that into a desire for permanent war. It made sense that he would destroy everything he touched, and not just for narrative ease.
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