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re: Anyone in the Star Wars:TFA was really disappointing category?
Posted on 12/21/15 at 2:53 am to asurob1
Posted on 12/21/15 at 2:53 am to asurob1
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Money made? Avatar
Ticket sales. Not overall money like dvd sales, vhs sales, merchandise etc . Star Wars total money shits on Avatar
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Universe size? Star Trek has generated at least as much if not more extra shite like books and merchandise and more sequels.
Pick one Star Trek movie more popular than Star Wars
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Considered movies you must see by the pundits? The Godfather was rated recently as the greatest movie ever made and if you don't like that one another lists says Shawshank ...
Star Wars won 6(I think) academy awards.
Only one movie belongs in the all 3 categories you listed. Star Wars.
And when you act so confident that Star Wars is not the most popular movie of all time, you better list some possible others. Not fricking Avatar.
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 2:59 am to UncleBlazer
Hilary Clinton said "May the force be with you" at the end of her debate and everyone knew what she was talking about. This was a movie made in 1977 being quoted at a 2015 Democratic convention to thunderous applause.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 5:12 am to TigerTalker142
I agree. All the advancements in technology in the film industry have only exposed the lack of talent in todays industry. This movie was beyond disappointing.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 7:08 am to TigerTalker142
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Maybe as someone who loved the post RotJ universe the books created as much as as the original movies, I have a different perspective on what the Star Wars series is.
OK, so this is really all about the EU. I've been saying this until I'm blue in the face, but the EU is never coming back. They may make some references to it and use some plot points as inspiration, but it's fricking gone. Get over it.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 7:54 am to TigerTalker142
I left with a meh feeling. It's as if they played it safe due to the prequels sucking so bad. Maybe with sequels they sill flush the story out, but on its own, it was average.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:16 am to TigerTalker142
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The really annoying thing is in the end Disney is still gonna win. Even as frustrated as I am with the wasted potential of this series, I'm still gonna end up watching all 3 in theaters and Disney's gonna make an assload of money on the whole thing making a fairly underwhelming product that has a brand too big fail.
This is so juvenile and silly to even say. People hate on Disney but they are the very best at what they do and that's please people. Some of you really have to take a long look in the mirror and realize that you get very few days in this life. You shouldn't spend so many of them being so God damned grumpy.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:17 am to OMLandshark
I can live with them not using the EU at all, if they had used just an average plot it's place. My gripe is that instead they just did a shitty reboot of the first movie, as far as plot goes. It just kind of sucks for those of us that actually enjoyed the Star Wars story.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 8:19 am
Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:29 am to TigerTalker142
I understand what you're saying. I agree with a lot of your observations, but I disagree with your conclusion.
I wish the new ones were darker and deeper too...less Disney-like. But I'm not in the target market. I'm old. We all have our expectations because it means so much to us but it's simply too much to ask for them to satisfy everyone. They picked a middle way (appealing to both kids and adults who experienced the originals). And honestly, given all the constraints from the previous episodes, it was done about as well as it could have been done.
I wish the new ones were darker and deeper too...less Disney-like. But I'm not in the target market. I'm old. We all have our expectations because it means so much to us but it's simply too much to ask for them to satisfy everyone. They picked a middle way (appealing to both kids and adults who experienced the originals). And honestly, given all the constraints from the previous episodes, it was done about as well as it could have been done.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:37 am to a want
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But I'm not in the target market. I'm old. We all have our expectations because it means so much to us but it's simply too much to ask for them to satisfy everyone. They picked a middle way (appealing to both kids and adults who experienced the originals). And honestly, given all the constraints from the previous episodes, it was done about as well as it could have been done.
it just seems like there is a sliding scale with this movie
it wasn't that good, but it wasn't the prequels
it wasn't that good, but it was made to appeal to a new market
it wasn't that good, but it was a necessary evil to bridge the gap into the new triology
etc
Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
Yeah, there's a sliding scale....there probably shouldn't be...but there is one.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:41 am to TigerTalker142
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Anyone in the Star Wars:TFA was really disappointing category? quote: Did you like the original trilogy? There were very few scenes in the OT that didn't include jokes and humor. I thoroughly enjoyed the original series. They have some humorous moments, but it was not forced in at all to the extent that it was in TFA. Essentially every single scene that had any sort of intensity or action in it had multiple attempts at comedy, until the death at the end and the final fight. It was really overdone IMO. Felt way more like guardians of the galaxy then the OT.
This exactly. The opening scene was good but the forced humor was terrible.
Other than that I thought the movie was awesome.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
I wouldn't say disappointed, it was a fun movie that is going in a much better direction than the prequels. I was really disappointed with them, but TFA is going the other way so that is positive. I disliked some things in this one (Kylo, Han's big scene, and few other tidbits,) but enjoyed more than I disliked.
I agree with a lot of posters that say they just took as safe of a route as possible and basically just stole what worked in the original trilogy and even other movies. I am willing to overlook that though and say they needed that to get back on track, but now they need push the boundaries and tell a new story.
I really like Rey and think it's cool that I grew up watching Luke and now my daughter gets to grow up watching Rey.
I agree with a lot of posters that say they just took as safe of a route as possible and basically just stole what worked in the original trilogy and even other movies. I am willing to overlook that though and say they needed that to get back on track, but now they need push the boundaries and tell a new story.
I really like Rey and think it's cool that I grew up watching Luke and now my daughter gets to grow up watching Rey.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 8:47 am
Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:47 am to a want
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Yeah, there's a sliding scale....there probably shouldn't be...but there is one.
as long as people admit it
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:22 am to tigerfan88
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The movie obviously went through Disney/Marvel wringer. Instead of expanding on the awesome universe Lucas and Expanded Universe team created, we got a New Hope remade for the age of comic book movies
In a lot of ways, I feel the same way. I still enjoyed the film, but I enjoy the Marvel movies. Still, I expect something different from Star Wars. By and large we got that, but The Fore Awakens did not have the same level of scope and attention to detail as Lucas' Star Wars. They're trying to hard to bank on OT nostalgia and aren't doing enough to push the universe forward.
You can make the argument that they took the safe route to bring interest back to Star Wars and that future installments will take more risks, but I am concerned until I see where they go from here. I will say that I absolutely love the team if Rey, Finn, Poe, and BB8 -- particularly Rey who might actually be a better protagonist than Luke himself. She was fantastic in this film, and I hope future writers/directors keep up her character development.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 9:35 am
Posted on 12/21/15 at 10:13 am to BulldogXero
Took my 13, 11, and 9 year old boys to see this movie. Their reactions to the movie was all I needed to see to know this is their ANH. 
They are still talking about the movie the next morning. It is just a fun movie with a great story.
They are still talking about the movie the next morning. It is just a fun movie with a great story.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 10:25 am to FreddieMac
quote:I expected mine to love it. He likes all the previous movies. he re-watches them all, even the terrible ones. He has lots of gear. he knew when this was opening and constantly asked when we were going.
9 year old boy
During the movie, he was fidgeting around and even looking backward up at the projector. i thought we were going to lose him. He has not mentioned it one time.
I think the slow start was the issue. By the time it got good, he didn't care anymore.
Still wants the video game though
Posted on 12/21/15 at 10:53 am to TigerTalker142
quote:My god. All of this right here.
My literary fanboy objections aside. The almost exact rehashing of original plotlines, ridiculous plot holes/gaps(po just somehow being alive and never even giving a cursory explanation as to how, the existence of both a republic and a resistance wut?why?, r2d2 having half the missing map the entire time and only coming online at the end. K.), the need to a make the majority of the intense scenes include some sort of "lol" moment, and fin being a moron were all pretty annoying features that made the movie much worse in my opinion.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:04 am to TigerTalker142
The prequels come out and everyone screams, "This isn't Star Wars. It's a political thriller."
TFA comes out, "Where are the politics?"
TFA comes out, "Where are the politics?"
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:17 am to illuminatic
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The prequels come out and everyone screams, "This isn't Star Wars. It's a political thriller."
TFA comes out, "Where are the politics?"
Yup.
These are the same type of fans who bashed the new star trek movies for not having enough star trek in them...apparently they wanted serious discussions of Klingon politics.
Shrug.
People always find a reason to bitch.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:34 am to asurob1
I'm a huge fan of Star Wars. That being said, outside of Empire, they aren't great movies. A New Hope has serious pacing issues and is just an all around choppy movie. Outside of the scenes with Luke, Vader and the Emperor, ROTJ isn't a good movie. At what point between Empire and ROTJ does Luke even become this powerful jedi?
Everyone is willing to overlook problems with the originals because the idea of it is awesome and had never been seen before. Star Wars is great because the fans say it is. TFA did nothing to betray the original trilogy. It gave us more of it. Just because some people have a romanticized version of it in their heads isn't the fault of JJ. He gave us more of the same, exactly what we asked for and exactly what I wanted.
Everyone is willing to overlook problems with the originals because the idea of it is awesome and had never been seen before. Star Wars is great because the fans say it is. TFA did nothing to betray the original trilogy. It gave us more of it. Just because some people have a romanticized version of it in their heads isn't the fault of JJ. He gave us more of the same, exactly what we asked for and exactly what I wanted.
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