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re: Whom, in your opinion, has the greatest All-Time pitching rotation in MLB
Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:07 pm to Sun God
Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:07 pm to Sun God
1998 Atlanta Braves
Greg Maddux (18-9, 2.22 ERA)*
Tom Glavine (20-6, 2.47 ERA)*
Denny Neagle (16-11, 3.55 ERA)
Kevin Millwood (17-8, 4.08 ERA)
John Smoltz (17-3, 2.90 ERA)
That's an absolutely insane rotation.
They probably aren't one of the all-time best, but the 2011 Phillies had an amazing rotation
Roy Halladay (19-6, 2.35 ERA)*
Cliff Lee (17-8, 2.40 ERA)*
Cole Hamels (14-9, 2.79 ERA)*
Roy Oswalt (9-10, 3.69 ERA)
Vance Worley (11-3, 3.01 ERA)
Greg Maddux (18-9, 2.22 ERA)*
Tom Glavine (20-6, 2.47 ERA)*
Denny Neagle (16-11, 3.55 ERA)
Kevin Millwood (17-8, 4.08 ERA)
John Smoltz (17-3, 2.90 ERA)
That's an absolutely insane rotation.
They probably aren't one of the all-time best, but the 2011 Phillies had an amazing rotation
Roy Halladay (19-6, 2.35 ERA)*
Cliff Lee (17-8, 2.40 ERA)*
Cole Hamels (14-9, 2.79 ERA)*
Roy Oswalt (9-10, 3.69 ERA)
Vance Worley (11-3, 3.01 ERA)
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 1:09 pm
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:49 pm to RolltidePA
"The Big Four"
Early Wynn 23-11 2.73 20 CGs
Bob Lemon 23- 7 2.72 21 CGs
Bob Feller 13-3 3.09 9 CGs
Mike Garcia 19-8 2.64 13 CGs
Wynn and Lemon led the league in wins, Garcia led the league in ERA and shutouts. Lemon also led in complete games.
Hal Newhouser, the 4th HOF on staff, was the closer 7-2 2.51 15 GF
Early Wynn 23-11 2.73 20 CGs
Bob Lemon 23- 7 2.72 21 CGs
Bob Feller 13-3 3.09 9 CGs
Mike Garcia 19-8 2.64 13 CGs
Wynn and Lemon led the league in wins, Garcia led the league in ERA and shutouts. Lemon also led in complete games.
Hal Newhouser, the 4th HOF on staff, was the closer 7-2 2.51 15 GF
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:04 pm to lsufball19
quote:
Warren Spahn Phil Niekro Tom Glavine Greg Maddux John Smoltz
How many championships does this group have…..rings matter
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:13 pm to RolltidePA
I think the Orioles may have had the best one-year staff ever.
Jim Palmer: 20-9, 2.68 ERA
Dave McNally: 21-5, 2.89 ERA
Mike Cuellar: 20-9, 3.08 ERA
Pat Dobson: 20-8, 2.90 ERA
Yet, Vida Blue, I think, won the MVP and Cy that year.
The A's of the 70's and 00's could throw a pretty good staff
Blue
Zito
Mulder
Catfish
Add Stewart in from the 80's or Welch
Jim Palmer: 20-9, 2.68 ERA
Dave McNally: 21-5, 2.89 ERA
Mike Cuellar: 20-9, 3.08 ERA
Pat Dobson: 20-8, 2.90 ERA
Yet, Vida Blue, I think, won the MVP and Cy that year.
The A's of the 70's and 00's could throw a pretty good staff
Blue
Zito
Mulder
Catfish
Add Stewart in from the 80's or Welch
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:16 pm to sms151t
Combine the Mid 00s and Late teens Astros
Verlander
Clemens
Cole
Pettitte
Oswalt
Verlander
Clemens
Cole
Pettitte
Oswalt
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:26 pm to sms151t
Red sox:
Cy Young
Clemens
Pedro
Schilling
Sale
Al Nipper
Oil Can Boyd
Cy Young
Clemens
Pedro
Schilling
Sale
Al Nipper
Oil Can Boyd
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:27 pm to sms151t
Hard to argue with that. Solid list.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:34 pm to lsufball19
quote:
Tom Glavine
Greg Maddux
I am not taking anything away from these guys. They were amazing...but i think they would struggle in todays game with the ABS system
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:37 pm to AUFANATL
1971 Baltimore Orioles had all 4 starting pitchers win a minimum of 20 games:
Jim Palmer: 20 -9
Mike Cuellar: 20-9
Dave McNally: 21-5
Pat Dobson: 20-8
Jim Palmer: 20 -9
Mike Cuellar: 20-9
Dave McNally: 21-5
Pat Dobson: 20-8
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:39 pm to Paul Allen
If we're doing a single year, the 1971 Orioles are tough to beat. They have 4 20 game winners: Palmer, McNally, Cuellar and Dobson
ETA: guess I should have checked before I hit "Submit"
ETA: guess I should have checked before I hit "Submit"
This post was edited on 3/11/26 at 7:55 am
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:40 pm to DalenSA
quote:all those over Gerrit Cole?
Greinke over JR Richard, Oswalt, or Dierker is certainly a choice
Posted on 3/10/26 at 3:12 pm to sms151t
quote:
The A's of the 70's and 00's could throw a pretty good staff
even better when you include Rollie Fingers and Dennis Eckersley
Posted on 3/10/26 at 3:19 pm to sms151t
quote:
Whom, in your opinion, has the greatest All-Time pitching rotation
It’s “‘who’ has the greatest rotation.” Not “whom.”
Posted on 3/10/26 at 3:45 pm to sms151t
Depending on criteria of how many seasons, Mets could roll out a pretty good rotation:
Seaver
Ryan
Gooden
Glavine
Pedro
Seaver
Ryan
Gooden
Glavine
Pedro
Posted on 3/10/26 at 4:43 pm to sms151t
Baltimore Orioles with 4 20 game winners:
Dave McNally
Mike Cuellar
Jim Palmer
Pat Dobson
Dave McNally
Mike Cuellar
Jim Palmer
Pat Dobson
Posted on 3/10/26 at 4:55 pm to pmacneworleans
quote:
1971 Baltimore Orioles had all 4 starting pitchers win a minimum of 20 games:
I was going to post this if nobody else did. McNally was 15-0 at one point during that season.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:17 pm to sms151t
Maybe not the greatest but Cardinals have some good names
Bob Gibson
Cy Young
Dizzy Dean
Steve Carlton
Adam Wainwright
Bob Tewkesbury
John Tudor
Tudor was a favorite of mine growing up and finished his STL career with over a 70% winning percentage and an ERA of around 2.4. A largely forgotten player
I liked Tewks a lot for being similar. Beating players with finesse instead of raw heat.
I think the all time list might be the Red Sox but love the all time Dodgers (Koufax, Fernando, Hershiser, Ohtani) and Mets (Seaver obviously but people forgot about Cone with Gooden in the 80s) too.
Bob Gibson
Cy Young
Dizzy Dean
Steve Carlton
Adam Wainwright
Bob Tewkesbury
John Tudor
Tudor was a favorite of mine growing up and finished his STL career with over a 70% winning percentage and an ERA of around 2.4. A largely forgotten player
I liked Tewks a lot for being similar. Beating players with finesse instead of raw heat.
I think the all time list might be the Red Sox but love the all time Dodgers (Koufax, Fernando, Hershiser, Ohtani) and Mets (Seaver obviously but people forgot about Cone with Gooden in the 80s) too.
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:10 pm to DalenSA
quote:
Greinke over JR Richard, Oswalt, or Dierker is certainly a choice
What about Mike Scott? Dude was dominant from 1985-89
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:15 pm to sms151t
quote:
All-Time pitching rotation
quote:
Yankees......Guidry
No.....just no
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