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re: Who wouldve won more titles-Duncan & Kobe or Shaq and T-Mac?(as duos)
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:29 pm to RonBurgundy
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:29 pm to RonBurgundy
TMac easily the worst of the 4. Other 3 are top 5 all time at their respective positions
Should settle the Kobe carrying Shaq argument
quote:
O'Neal was named MVP of the NBA Finals all three times and had the highest scoring average for a center in NBA Finals history.
Should settle the Kobe carrying Shaq argument
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:32 pm to D011ahbi11
I like you
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:32 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
What makes Duncan so good is his longevity and consistency. His peak isn't as high as Shaq's.
Truth
And Kobe's longevity is what makes him so much better than TMac. And some how you picked Shaq and TMac. Weird.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:36 pm to Roaad
I don't know which way I'm leaning, but
T-Mac in his eight year peak(00-08) is very much on par with
Kobe Bryant.
T-Mac wouldn't need to be the alpha dog, Shaq would be.
Prime Shaq and T-Mac could definitely three peat and probably more.
For the Rockets fans, T-Mac gave the rest of his prime to you while the front office gave a mediocre supporting cast to work with for most his time in Houston,sans Yao.
quote:
Duncan is a better replacement for Shaq, than T-Mac is for Kobe.
T-Mac in his eight year peak(00-08) is very much on par with
Kobe Bryant.
T-Mac wouldn't need to be the alpha dog, Shaq would be.
Prime Shaq and T-Mac could definitely three peat and probably more.
For the Rockets fans, T-Mac gave the rest of his prime to you while the front office gave a mediocre supporting cast to work with for most his time in Houston,sans Yao.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:38 pm to Roaad
quote:
Kobe - Duncan or Shaq-Iverson?
T-Mac in his prime was a superior player to Allen Iverson.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:39 pm to RonBurgundy
KobE > tmac
Duncan > Shaq
Easy at that IMO.
Duncan > Shaq
Easy at that IMO.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:43 pm to D011ahbi11
quote:I glanced over the question. I thought he asked which duo would be better. I didn't realize the question was which duo would win more titles.
And Kobe's longevity is what makes him so much better than TMac. And some how you picked Shaq and TMac. Weird.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:01 pm to PrimeTime Money
T-Mac at his peak was a beast. He was playing with scrubs like Drew Gooden, Gordon Giricek, and fat Shawn Kemp.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:53 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
His peak isn't as high as Shaq's.
bullshite.
They were both dominant in different ways.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:37 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Ehhh No. Duncan wins on longevity only. Shaq was much better at his peak.
Just a quick look at PER.
Duncans 2 highest seasons.
27.1
27.0
Shaq
30.6
30.6
Shaq had 8 seasons better than Duncan's best. Including 7 in a row.
Just a quick look at PER.
Duncans 2 highest seasons.
27.1
27.0
Shaq
30.6
30.6
Shaq had 8 seasons better than Duncan's best. Including 7 in a row.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:40 pm to RonBurgundy
quote:
Tmac was a black hole? I seriously question whether you've watched nba basketball or do you merely pull stats off the internet. T Mac was a pretty unselfish basketball player.
yea dude cause shooting 25x per game at 41% is conducive to winning
Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:45 pm to Lester Earl
When you're the only offensive player on your team you're going to shoot more and take lower percentage shots. What were Kobe's stats circa 2008ish? I'm on my way to bed and too lazy to look.
I think Shaq and TMac would have had good synergy. Very Shaq and Penny-esque. I'd be inclined to say their peak would be very high. But Kobe and Timmy would be really good for a long time. They probably get the nod here.
I think Shaq and TMac would have had good synergy. Very Shaq and Penny-esque. I'd be inclined to say their peak would be very high. But Kobe and Timmy would be really good for a long time. They probably get the nod here.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:56 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:this. But more titles obviously goes the other way
I think at their peaks, and all else being equal, Shaq and McGrady > Duncan and Kobe
Posted on 7/23/15 at 12:25 am to RonBurgundy
why TMac?
why not like Duncan and Kobe vs Shaq and Parker/Manu duo
why not like Duncan and Kobe vs Shaq and Parker/Manu duo
Posted on 7/23/15 at 12:29 am to SammyTiger
T-Mac and Kobe were considered equals during their primes. It was a lot like Chris Paul and Deron Williams, where injuries have made people forget that the two used to be heavily compared.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:35 am to SwaggerCopter
Who are the role players, bench. That would go along ways in helping me determine which duo would win more.
Was there a decent PF that could get defenders out of the paint and guarding the perimeter. Was there a good PG/SG to compliment both players.
Was there a decent PF that could get defenders out of the paint and guarding the perimeter. Was there a good PG/SG to compliment both players.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:50 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Duncan Kobe easily
Finally something we can agree on
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:57 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Tmac was a black hole? I seriously question whether you've watched nba basketball or do you merely pull stats off the internet. T Mac was a pretty unselfish basketball player.
yea dude cause shooting 25x per game at 41% is conducive to winning
Exhibit C
Posted on 7/23/15 at 6:45 am to RonBurgundy
TMAC had a PER in 02-03 of 30.27. Kobe was never over 28.
Shooting 41% taking when a 3rd of your shots are 3s is a lot different than shooting 41% on a minimal amount of 3PA.
Shooting 41% taking when a 3rd of your shots are 3s is a lot different than shooting 41% on a minimal amount of 3PA.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:29 am to 504Voodoo
I'm pretty sure we agree on my irl hoops acumen too after those IRL beat downs I put on you.
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