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re: Who in the NBA would you take over Anthony Davis?

Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:35 am to
Point is, there's about 7-9 guys that can do what Kyrie does.

CP3 and Curry are the PGs that bring something different to the table.

No one can do what Lebron, Durant, Davis do-- I'd toss in George and Love.

That's why you take them top 5-6 in a hypothetical redraft.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:36 am to
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Roy Hibbert, Dwayne Wade, LaMarcus Aldridge,

you would take these 3 over AD?

Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:37 am to
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Am I trying to win a title within the next 4 or 5 years? Then no.


Unless you get the first pick and take LeBron, you're probably not winning within the next 4-5 years anyway. Kobe, Wade, or Deron Williams sure as shite aren't going to put you over the team with LeBron, and by the time that LeBron fades those players will, too.

Everyone is forgetting the best center in the league Marc Gasol....
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:37 am to
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I'd want my franchise player to be an impact player on both ends. Durant is the only exception


Durant is far better on defense than his reputation suggests. He's made great strides on that end and in his passing the past 2 years. He's up there right behind LeBron not because he is only a great scorer, but because he is great at so many things now. He ain't Melo.

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I wouldn't choose a PG


The PG thing is a fair point. Height still matters in this league. I just love both Paul and Westbrook and think they bring so much to the table despite being small.

Surprised no one has said Hibbert. He doesn't have the jaw dropping stats or play big minutes, but the guy is a legitimate force.

Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:37 am to
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Point is, there's about 7-9 guys that can do what Kyrie does.

CP3 and Curry are the PGs that bring something different to the table.

No one can do what Lebron, Durant, Davis do-- I'd toss in George and Love.

That's why you take them top 5-6 in a hypothetical redraft.
Mostly true, but I was throwing Kyrie into the conversation about who might be as good or better option than Davis. Hell, Brook Lopez may be in the discussion as well.

ETA: Also, the OP didn't discuss this in the context of starting a franchise. In that scenario, a young big with tons of talent and a huge upside is valued higher than current ability/production.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 10:40 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:38 am to
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Everyone is forgetting the best center in the league Marc Gasol....


Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:39 am to
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but can he be one of those players who can take over a game?


He's already done that this season.

Lakers game. He went off.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:40 am to
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AD is a solid player so far... but can he be one of those players who can take over a game? Like Dirk did to the Rockets last night?


He took over the end of the first game vs the Lakers
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:40 am to
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ut can he be one of those players who can take over a game?





Define "take over a game". Davis takes over games offensively and defensively. Not many players can say that.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:41 am to
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I think he is one of many young talented players.


He's probably the best of the "young" players.

quote:

best player on a mediocre team with so so talent.



K.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:43 am to
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best player on a mediocre team with so so talent.


I think this is a valid point.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:43 am to
So is Marc Gasol not the best center?
Posted by REG861
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:43 am to
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Hell, Brook Lopez may be in the discussion as well.


Who doesnt want a 7 foot center that can't rebound?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:43 am to
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but can he be one of those players who can take over a game?


a) He's 20.

b) He's already done it this season.
Posted by Fleur De Lethal
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:44 am to
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Hmm let's see....

KD, Kobe, CP3, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, James Harden, Russell Westbrook, Paul George, Roy Hibbert, Dwayne Wade, LaMarcus Aldridge, Kevin Love....

this list could take a while


You don't watch much basketball I see.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27337 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:45 am to
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Lakers game. He went off.
I'm gonna need a little more than that.

Jeremy Lin has already had a couple 30+ point games this season.

Doesn't mean he's Dirk or Durant.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:45 am to
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So is Marc Gasol not the best center?


Anthony Davis is not a center.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32866 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:45 am to
I'd still take Howard over Gasol, I was laughing because espn was all over him as a top 10 player before the season started. That is ridiculous.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59711 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:45 am to
Well there is no denying that Davis is the best young talent in the game...but I also get the sense that opposing players aren't necessarily bringing their A game when they play the Pelicans. Think about it, one night you're playing Howard and Harden on national TV, the next you're playing in front of a 40% filled arena vs the Pelicans. It's only natural that you would be more "up" for one of those games than the next.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 10:46 am to
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best player on a mediocre team with so so talent.


I think this is a valid point.


Nope.

He isn't Rudy Gay putting up 20ppg due to volume shooting. Check out his TS%. Check out the SportVU player tracking stats- Davis pulls down a huge % of available rebounds and contested rebounds and he defends the rim as well as Hibbert.
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