re: Who are the greatest option quarterbacks in CFB history?

Steadman Shealy Alabama
Archie Manning Ole Miss

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I watched the whole game recently and can tell you that Nebraska's offense was dead to rights until the fourth quarter when Frazier came into the game.

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That includes a lot of time with Frazier in the game.

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When Osborne put Frazier back into the game in the fourth quarter, the offense started humming.

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1. Miami didn’t get a first down in the 4th. Nebraska had excellent field position and momentum on their side.

2. Osborne’s key play calls, a Pro Bowl FB, and a veteran OL with an Outland winner made the plays that won the game.

Frazier started the game and accounted for a whopping 64 yards of total offense. I will give him credit for a couple of nice runs in the 4th quarter when the Miami D was on its heels, but it was hardly a supernatural effort.

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It's one thing to look at the stats on CFB Reference like you tend to do, and another to actually watch the game.

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How do you think I know the winning touchdowns were trap and belly and why both (but especially the trap) were good play calls?

I was playing QB in a Split Veer Offense in 1994. I was glued to the tube in those days.

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There's a reason why the media voted Frazier the MVP of the Orange Bowl. It's because they don't win without him at QB.

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Corey Schlesinger should have been MVP with two fourth quarter TD’s. Lawrence Phillips had 101 rushing yards. Berringer accounted for a TD. Nebraska probably doesn’t win the game without key plays by all of those players.

If Berringer had played QB the whole game, iit’s not out of the question that Nebraska wins the game. At worst, it’s a 12-1 season with a close loss to Miami. And Berringer almost certainly would have won it as the starter in 1995.

When a team can go 24-1 (at least) without you - and only needed a measly 64 yards and no touchdowns from you in a game you started to win that one game - that’s a pretty nice little gig.

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Did Trent Dilfer finish runner-up for NFL MVP in 2000 or win three straight Super Bowl MVPs?

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You said QB’s are judged on championships. Did you not mean that?

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No one ever said otherwise. There's a reason why I included him on my list.

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And I didn’t necessarily say I think Crouch is better than Frazier. I do, however, think the circumstances in which they played had a lot to do with their legacies.

Frazier played with better talent against weaker competition.

Triple option not RPO

Holliway and the wishbone. Deadly, deadly combination in the mid 80's

John Bond

Lance McIlhenny
Walter Lewis

If we’re going old school true option quarterbacks I’m throwing in John Bond from the early 80’s. Couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn but the man had big hands and could run the triple option like nobody’s business. Partied like a mad man too

Not the greatest, but Michael Bishop (Kansas State) was also really good.

can't remember if it was dj williams or vilma that just ate crouch's soul early on an option play in that game....but after that it was clear they were totally fricked in that game

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If we’re going old school true option quarterbacks I’m throwing in John Bond from the early 80’s.

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I still remember Bond in the 1981 game in Tuscaloosa going over the left side for about 50 yards early in the game down to the 1 and they scored on the next play to take a 7-0 lead. That was a really good game, 13-10.