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re: What should the Dolphins do with the #3 pick in the draft?
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:55 am to Hamma1122
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:55 am to Hamma1122
I know it is a bit of a sunk cost fallacy but what can you get for Tua after a year of play and no real flashes shown?
What did the Fins trade for Rosen? A 4th? Lot of depreciation considering that Rosen was a top 5 selection.
What did the Fins trade for Rosen? A 4th? Lot of depreciation considering that Rosen was a top 5 selection.
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:57 am to teke184
Cardinals got a 2nd rounder for Rosen
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 8:58 am
Posted on 12/29/20 at 9:21 am to wildtigercat93
Of course it all depends on exactly how irrestible of a deal another team is willing to make for that pick but I would either take the tackle or trade down. To me Pitts is a luxury for that team that already has Gisecki but has nothing in the way of wide receivers. If this was last year's receiver draft trading down would be the easy move but I haven't studied the depth of this year's draft. You can't make any judgement good or bad on Tua yet. He had no training camp, no pre-season, and had to recover from an injury from the previous year. Typically quarterbacks make their biggest steps forward between their first and second years of starting. You have to wait until this time next year before you can really pass any judgement on him. He definitely needs more weapons to throw to though.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 9:32 am to RLDSC FAN
Gotta draft Penei Sewell.
Draft a receiver with your later 1st.
Draft a receiver with your later 1st.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 10:57 am to RLDSC FAN
You build from the inside out... if Sewell is there you take him......
Posted on 12/29/20 at 11:35 am to RLDSC FAN
Just here for a daily reminder that butt chin Bob destroyed the Texans.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 11:47 am to msudawg1200
The answer is always to trade down. There are too many misses even with top of the round guys to not add more bullets, especially for a bad team. If they can’t find anyone to dance, then Sewell is the no brainer. WR is a luxury and a lot of good ones.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 11:49 am to RLDSC FAN
Unless the Clemson QB falls, you don't take another QB. Personally, I'd inquire to see if the Pats are willing to give up a kings random to move up, but I'd see if I can drop back 5 spots or so, grab an extra second, and take the best player available.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 11:53 am to RLDSC FAN
If you have a top 5 pick, you always draft a QB or trade for moar 1st round picks. Max that trade value. Worst case you evaluate the new QB and trade for needs.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 11:57 am to RLDSC FAN
Sewell.
He’s like 20 years old. He’s a franchise LT. They are setting Tua up with everything he needs to succeed.
Take a WR early in the second or with their own pick.
He’s like 20 years old. He’s a franchise LT. They are setting Tua up with everything he needs to succeed.
Take a WR early in the second or with their own pick.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 12:22 pm to DBG
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Tua has nearly half the attempts of Burrow and QB rating 4 points higher. Not a valid criteria and QBR is an iffy metric anyway.
I’m talking about QB Rating not the ESPN QBR shite.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 12:35 pm to DBG
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#Dolphins Tua Tagovailoa has the second-highest percentage of throws into tight coverage in the league at 22.8%.
Fitzpatrick has the third-highest at 21.7%.
Russell Wilson and Mahomes have the lowest, each below 11.5
The Dolphins receivers are garbage. They aren’t getting open for Tua and they aren’t getting open for Fitzpatrick either.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 12:35 pm to TheeRealCarolina
I’m talking QB rating also
ESPNs QB rating is actually a little better but it skews a tad too much towards dual threat QBs
ESPNs QB rating is actually a little better but it skews a tad too much towards dual threat QBs
Posted on 12/29/20 at 12:51 pm to Bench McElroy
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The Dolphins receivers are garbage. They aren’t getting open for Tua and they aren’t getting open for Fitzpatrick either.
Burrow actually has a higher drop rate than Tua, 4.8% vs. 4.6. Burrow also has a lower bad throw %, 14.8 vs. 18.3, and a higher on target %, 75.3 vs. 74.1.
All the while, facing significantly more pressure, a 20.8 pressure rate vs. 14.7 for Tua
Posted on 12/29/20 at 1:16 pm to tigerpimpbot
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t’s going to be interesting to see because I think you’re 100% correct in that Flores will want to move the pick. We will see how high the Phine have the top O line guys graded. I don’t think Flores moves on from Tua just yet.
I don't think so either. It's also possible that the Jets take Sewell, leaving the Dolphins @ 3 which probably means they'll be desperate to trade down for a WR.
What's interesting is that last draft everyone assumed that the Lions were going to trade down to a QB hungry team, but those teams (Chargers and Dolphins) just stayed put and got the QBs they wanted. The Lions ended up taking Jeff Okudah 4th.
Might be the same scenario this time around. The Dolphins can end up taking BPA (like a defensive end) if they get stuck.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 1:45 pm to Billy Mays
If they stand pat with their picks, they have to grab Sewell. Then add the top outside weapon available with their own pick later in the first.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 1:49 pm to DBG
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Burrow actually has a higher drop rate than Tua, 4.8%
It appears you're confusing drop rate and getting open.
0.2% is what, an additional handful of drops? Jakeem Grant, a glorified kick returner, has been the dolphins WR1 down the stretch. The patriots have a better receiver corps right now. Even with Devante Parker it's a bottom 3 unit in the league
Posted on 12/29/20 at 1:51 pm to Billy Mays
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I don't think so either. It's also possible that the Jets take Sewell, leaving the Dolphins @ 3 which probably means they'll be desperate to trade down for a WR.
What's interesting is that last draft everyone assumed that the Lions were going to trade down to a QB hungry team, but those teams (Chargers and Dolphins) just stayed put and got the QBs they wanted. The Lions ended up taking Jeff Okudah 4th.
Might be the same scenario this time around. The Dolphins can end up taking BPA (like a defensive end) if they get stuck.
Definitely possible. But Miami and SD were the only two teams everyone knew wanted a QB last year and they both had picks in the top 6. The order could shake out better for Miami since right now Detroit, Carolina, Denver, NE, SF, Washington, Chicago, and Indy all could want a QB.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 1:52 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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If they stand pat with their picks, they have to grab Sewell. Then add the top outside weapon available with their own pick later in the first.
I agree but I wouldn't be shocked if the Jets take Sewell - although they did spend draft capital on another OT (Becton) last year. Would be great bookends, though. Not sure how many NFL teams have gone back to back OT high in drafts in NFL history.
They need to draft at least 2 WRs though, I agree. Not sure what Parker's contract situation is going forward, but they definitely need a slot and probably another X.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 1:52 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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The patriots have a better receiver corps right now.
Well that’s just not true
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