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re: Tom Brady: There’s a lot of mediocrity in today’s NFL due to rule changes, bad coaching

Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:07 am to
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
25075 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:07 am to
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Football is becoming so watered down. Every game feels more and more like a production

I hate modern football because the QB is just a running back. The passing game is when he starts to scramble and the DB looks to tackle him. The actual sport is deteriorating into something different and worse.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
13652 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:07 am to
There were also two Collective Bargaining Agreements ratified during Brady’s career that have impacted roster construction and player development.

- Less Practice Time:
The 2011 and 2020 agreements each reduced practice time in the offseason, during training camp, and during the season. Both also decreased the number of full padded practices, contact in practice, and even limited the number of “shell” practices (only helmets and shoulder pads).

- Rookie Wage Scale:
Not only are the huge rookie contracts a thing of the past, but every pick in every round has a salary scale with a narrow window. There is very little negotiating. There’s clearly defined costs, contract length, and guarantees before a team even makes a draft pick.

The cheap fixed costs of rookie contracts has resulted in an increase of younger and inexperienced players in the league, and fewer experienced veterans.

It has also created a significant increase in underclassmen declaring for the draft. There’s very little incentive to play another year of college to increase your draft stock. The big money is in that second contract.

Even the young, inexperienced players filling out NFL rosters have become even younger less experienced.

Teams are churning their rosters every year. The turnover from year to year is about one-third of the roster are new players.

Coaches have fewer veterans to rely on, more inexperienced players that need development, roster turnover each season, and a constant stream of rule changes that require fundamental changes in how to rush the QB, how to tackle, how to cover a WR.

Coaches need a lot more practice time to come close to getting their team prepared. Instead, they get less. The gradual decline in quality might not be noticeable year to year, but the cumulative effect has become very noticeable the last few seasons.











Posted by whowasbert
Member since Apr 2020
301 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:37 am to
I guess Carson Palmer doesn’t exist.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23605 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:20 am to
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The rules have allowed a lot of bad habits


Like the refs throwing a flag on every play over 40 yards
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13109 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:28 am to
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Brady was the biggest crybaby and benefactor of the rule changes. He might have a point, but he’s not the one to make it.



Who better to make it than a guy that benefitted greatly from the rules, but also is every man's everyman that while essentially just a slightly above average talent, became the greatest there's ever been? The 2nd half of his career is all the evidence needed to make his point. When he should've been regressing he kept getting better. He didn't get more talented nor his teams really better. The game got easier.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104191 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:28 am to
Brady won a ring because of this. He kinda needs to chill



He also screamed and whined to the refs during games more than any qb I can remember
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 7:31 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
24941 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:32 am to
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Dan Patrick had Steve Young on this morning & Young said every "old time " NFL QB would love to be playing with today's rules. Said Aaron Rogers is probably the last of the old guard QB's.


He's probably not wrong. Imagine Montana, Rice, Craig etc. in Bill Walsh's offense where if you look at a receiver the wrong way, pass interference is called, and guys like the Giants DL and LBs aren't allowed to tee off on QBs.

Warren Moon in the Houston run and shoot offense would obviously do better with today's rules against defenders. Marino might throw for 6,000 yards instead of his barely over 5,000 that was an NFL record for multiple decades. Then from 2011 to 2021 there were ten 5,000 yard passers. Just counting those seasons, because now with 17 games, it's not as comparable.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
20616 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:40 am to
People who bitch about the NFL but watch are like the dumbfricks who bitch about politics but don’t vote. Keep watching dummies.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5231 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:41 am to
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You can't hit QBs low because Brady tore his ACL in week 1.



That was an objectively good thing.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
48808 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:06 am to
Mediocrity is a good word to describe the NFL. When was the last time there were teams that absolutely were dominant year after year after year? When there were (think: Cowboys, 49ers, Steelers, Packers) teams that consistently had a core group of players that stayed with the team for 5 to 10+ years, it was all the rage then to write about how the league needed to do something to bring some parity to the league. They wrote then that there were too many teams that were ending the seasons with less than 5 wins, in some cases only 1. Fans wanted to see more scores, less defense.

In today's NFL, a QB like Dan Marino might not be successful. The offenses have changed and the trend is towards athletic QB's that can run the ball and escape the pocket.

But yes, you can turn on an NFL game and it is a bland, homogenized, pasteurized product with lots of no name players (not saying their untalented, just that most don't stand out as exceptional).

While we're at it, college ball needs to get rid of the running clock. It has reduced play series and reduced some of what made the college games unique and interesting. Also, catching the kickoff at the five and getting the ball on the 25 stinks. Start at the 20 if the ball goes to the end zone. Out of bounds kick should be a rekick, but "somebody might get hurt!" crybabies lament. Just more pussification of the game.
Posted by ImJustaBoy
Member since Oct 2023
1477 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:04 am to
Bring back steroids. Bring them all back, especially those for recovery. I miss it :(
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 9:05 am
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3112 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:23 am to
Lots of drops. Its become more about forty times and measurables and less about overall ability.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75014 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:15 am to
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I feel like maybe Brady was the benefactor of many of those rule changes. They allowed him to play as long as he did.


That game against the Broncos where he got the shite kicked out of him still has to be up there of biggest physical arse kickings a QB has ever received.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:51 am to
Ugh, I can't stand the "back in my day" types. Didn't know Brady was like that, especially when he personally benefited from a lot of the changes implemented. He wouldn't have had as long of a career had it not been for the rules changes. This is his era more than the early 2000s was.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 10:55 am
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
60780 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:52 am to
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Or if teams stop going full retard with QB contracts.

You can't in a league where they've made the QB play so important. That's the market in play.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
57493 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:57 am to
News flash for Tom: it was mediocre for several years while he was still playing.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25476 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:12 am to
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Brady was the biggest crybaby and benefactor of the rule changes. He might have a point, but he’s not the one to make it.


This shite over and over again.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:46 am to
He's not wrong.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Brady was the biggest crybaby and benefactor of the rule changes

Melt.

And you are probably right, but so is Brady in this situation.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 11:47 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59400 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:58 am to
He’s 100% correct. The NFL is as boring as the NBA now. Canned food leagues.
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