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re: The Phillies are why 4 team CFB playoff is perfect
Posted on 10/23/22 at 6:22 pm to sta4ever
Posted on 10/23/22 at 6:22 pm to sta4ever
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Baseball and football are not even close to being comparable sports. This is like comparing apple juice to orange juice. Trying to compare the finishing product of two different products. CFB should still do the BCS system.
This is almost as stupid as the “you’re scared of the Phillies” nonsense
the point is regular seasons should matter. I make the comparison because CFB is the last sport that does have a small playoff so the regular season does matter. The problem with the BCS is 2004 and it would have happened in 2018 and even worse in 2019 when you would have to pick out of LSU, tOSU who looked like the 2 best teams and the defending champion who hadn’t lost in 2 years. Sorry 4 is perfect you’ll never have an 85 Villanova style BS champ but you won’t have 2004 Auburn either
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 6:40 pm to H-Town Tiger
Regular season DOES matter. It's what gets you into the playoffs. If you dominate the regular season, but have a weakness that gets exposed in the playoffs by a 90 win team, then the team is not an all time great team.
Posted on 10/23/22 at 6:50 pm to H-Town Tiger
Guess the Dodgers are Champions then.
Posted on 10/23/22 at 6:51 pm to H-Town Tiger
The MLB playoffs (much like the playoffs of most sports) are not set up to determine the best team. Just a champion.
Posted on 10/23/22 at 6:51 pm to WaltTeevens
Spot on.
Posted on 10/23/22 at 7:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
1. The reason they went to divisions after expansion in 1969 instead of a team from each league was, as an owner back then observed, “We can’t sell a 12th-place team.”
2. The reason they went to the four-team playoffs in 1995 was people bitched about the 100-win 1980 Orioles and the 103-win 1993 Giants staying home.
3. Everything else has been done for money, and I agree the regular season should be shortened if they’re going to let so many teams in, but it’s not going to happen.
2. The reason they went to the four-team playoffs in 1995 was people bitched about the 100-win 1980 Orioles and the 103-win 1993 Giants staying home.
3. Everything else has been done for money, and I agree the regular season should be shortened if they’re going to let so many teams in, but it’s not going to happen.
Posted on 10/23/22 at 7:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
I am okay with the extended playoffs but I do think changes should be made.
I hate how the worse seeded teams in both the DS / CS series are getting the prime weekend slots as an example. Philly got fri and sat slots in both series. That just shouldn’t happen.
DS should also be changed to 7 games.
They should also reseed like the NBA does based on record.
I hate how the worse seeded teams in both the DS / CS series are getting the prime weekend slots as an example. Philly got fri and sat slots in both series. That just shouldn’t happen.
DS should also be changed to 7 games.
They should also reseed like the NBA does based on record.
This post was edited on 10/23/22 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 10/23/22 at 7:10 pm to hiltacular
Yeah I think every round should be best of 7. The NBA may be boring but that's the best way if you're gonna have a postseason (which doesn't seem to be a thing in the European soccer leagues).
Posted on 10/23/22 at 7:10 pm to H-Town Tiger
You also can’t discredit the fact that the schedules in regular season are not even. Philly played almost 40 games against Mets and Braves. The padres really only had the dodgers in their division as a tough opponent.
Posted on 10/23/22 at 7:25 pm to H-Town Tiger
The format from 13-21 (outside of COVID year) was perfect. Win your division get a bye. Wild Card your season comes down to 1 game.
Also was a smaller break between season and DS starting and only gave wild card teams 1 game to get in a groove.
Also was a smaller break between season and DS starting and only gave wild card teams 1 game to get in a groove.
Posted on 10/23/22 at 7:30 pm to H-Town Tiger
I agree with the OP.
It grinds my gears when mediocre teams are given an opportunity to win championships. But I accept it because the bottom line is money, and that's not going to change.
If they want to get spicy they could give the higher seeds a much better advantage, like needing to win less games in a series. But that is way too unorthodox, so that would never fly.
It grinds my gears when mediocre teams are given an opportunity to win championships. But I accept it because the bottom line is money, and that's not going to change.
If they want to get spicy they could give the higher seeds a much better advantage, like needing to win less games in a series. But that is way too unorthodox, so that would never fly.
Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:06 pm to WaltTeevens
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Regular season DOES matter. It's what gets you into the playoffs.
This is kind of a circular argument. By this logic the NBA regular season mattered when they had 23 teams and 16 made the playoffs and 7 did not. A full season especially in baseball separates the better teams. Who wins the most games out of 162 is more telling than who wins the most out of 5 or 7.
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If you dominate the regular season, but have a weakness that gets exposed in the playoffs by a 90 win team, then the team is not an all time great team.
This is silly on 2 counts. Losing a short series is not necessarily a sign of a “weakness” that's just another narrative the media serves and fans eat up. 2 WGAF about being an “all time great team”. It’s about the champion being one of the best teams in a given year.
Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
If there were series in football there would be no Phillies. Oregon ain’t beating uga bama osu clemson more than one extremely lucky time. Horrible comparison. Try college hoops. One and done
Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:38 pm to Streelman
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If there were series in football there would be no Phillies. Oregon ain’t beating uga bama osu clemson more than one extremely lucky time. Horrible comparison.
how do people like you function taking things so literally?
How do you come up with if there was a series… The point numb nuts (which I’ve explained multiple times) is CFB is the only small playoff field, only the top 4 teams make it. the CFB equivalent of the Phillies would be an 7-5 team, that should put it in perspective. No 7-5 team should play for a National Title. The good news given the nature of CFB it would be extremely unlikely, near impossible for a 7-5 team to win 3 or 4 playoff games to get there. Though we have seen 9-7 teams make the Super Bowl but the talent is way more concentrated in CFB. The NBA has the biggest joke of a regular season but the teams in the Finals are pretty much always top 2 or 3 seeds from each conference.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 12:05 am to hiltacular
I definitely agree with reseeding after each round. I don't know why that wasn't implemented.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 12:07 am to The Boat
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This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 12:13 am
Posted on 10/24/22 at 12:10 am to H-Town Tiger
The sheer amount of blowouts in the CFB Playoffs, particularly in the semifinal games, since its inception should be enough proof that 4 teams is already pushing it.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 12:11 am
Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:41 pm to 632627
I agree. I wish the Phillies were matched against the Yankees so we can see two northern teams play in frigid weather.
Remember Bowie “the grand” Kuhn wearing a short-sleeved shirt and tie in the Philadelphia v. Los Angeles series in the sleet in Philadelphia? I do. The game should never have been played in those conditions. The best team did not win.
Play the WS no later than mid-October and have some day games so kids can watch it. Grow the game. Here.
Remember Bowie “the grand” Kuhn wearing a short-sleeved shirt and tie in the Philadelphia v. Los Angeles series in the sleet in Philadelphia? I do. The game should never have been played in those conditions. The best team did not win.
Play the WS no later than mid-October and have some day games so kids can watch it. Grow the game. Here.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:44 pm to hiltacular
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They should also reseed like the NBA does based on record.
/thread.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:49 pm to H-Town Tiger
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They only won 87 games, finished 3rd in their 5 team division, they weren’t even the classic “hot down the stretch” team winning 7 of their last 20, but they are going to the World Series making a mockery of the regular season. Spare me then”winning when it counts” that’s just marketing bs you’ve been duped to believe. Anything can happen in a small sample size, especially in baseball a sport where marginal differences play out over time. the 60 wins A’s swept the 106 win Astros in a 3 game set.
So what does this have to do with CFB.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 4:02 pm
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