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re: The benefit of hindsight: Re-doing the #1 pick of the last 25 NFL Drafts

Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:35 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:35 am to
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Based on what?

OP was a beast LT that won a Super Bowl. Hall of Famer.

Pace was basically an All Pro from his rookie year at a position much more valuable than TE

this list is shite
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112369 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:39 am to
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I don't think so. #1 is either Russell Okung (118 starts/118 games) or Rob Gronkowski.


Russell Okung is not good
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:40 am to
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Original #1: Eric Fisher


Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6870 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:43 am to
Pretty sure this is about how good the player became and not team needs.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:53 am to
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2006
Original #1: Mario Williams
New #1: Mario Williams

This one stuck out to me.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:00 am to
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This one stuck out to me.



Similar 2006 players who could have been re-done at 1:

Ngata
MJD
Jahri Evans
Brandon Marshall

Man, that was an overrated big-name draft.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:12 am to
I'd put Andrew Whitworth in the argument for #1 in that draft.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:14 am to
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2012
Original #1: Andrew Luck
New #1: Andrew Luck


I know Luck has made a massive comeback and was doing a lot with less before his injury. But shouldn't Russell Wilson be #1 from 2012?
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65502 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:22 am to
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2004
Original #1: Eli Manning
New #1: Ben Roethlisberger

Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25552 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:25 am to
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2007
Original #1: JaMarcus Russell
New #1: Adrian Peterson

Everyone but the Raiders agreed with this at the time
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 8:26 am
Posted by RebelTheBear
Saban's spare bedroom
Member since Aug 2016
5539 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:28 am to
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2004
Original #1: Eli Manning
New #1: Ben Roethlisberger


I'm obviously biased, but I disagree with this one.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
3366 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:35 am to
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2006 Original #1: Mario Williams New #1: Mario Williams


For how great college football was at this time this is a garbage draft.

I might change Mario Williams with Ngata (5x Pro Bowl, 2 first team, 3 second team and super bowl winner) or Nick Mangold (7 pro bowls, 2 first team, and 1 second team). Maybe throw Cromartie's name in there as well.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11201 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:36 am to
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2007 Original #1: JaMarcus Russell New #1: Adrian Peterson



Ouch.
Posted by Kevin TheRant
Member since Nov 2010
1727 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:40 am to
Plolomalu(sp?) > Carson Palmer.
Also in that draft: Romo, Antonio Gates, Suggs.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5426 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:41 am to
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Cam is in no way a perfect qb, but Qb's are hard to find and Cam has been a top half to top ten qb in the league. I would still lean towards taking Cam

Cam and Von literally settled this on the field.

This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 8:42 am
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
3366 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:43 am to
Damn Raiders. That 07 draft was so hard to miss.

Calvin Johnson
Joe Thomas
AP
Patrick Willis
Marshawn Lynch
Revis

Complete dumbasses to miss on that #1 pick. Not to mention all the other guys who at least made a pro bowl or two but you pick Jamarcus Russell.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21399 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:51 am to
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2016
Original #1: Jared Goff
New #1: Carson Wentz


quote:

1997
Original #1: Orlando Pace
New #1: Tony Gonzalez


I feel like the above splitting atoms here. We don’t know the Goff vs Wentz story yet. Not even close at this time.

And Orlando Pace was the anchor lineman for the Greatest Show on Turf and is considered one of the greatest OL to ever play. I know Gonz is one of the greatest, maybe the greatest TE to play as well. There’s really not a way to pick one over the other definitively, IMO.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:57 am to
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Complete dumbasses to miss on that #1 pick. Not to mention all the other guys who at least made a pro bowl or two but you pick Jamarcus Russell.

While I get that Jamarcus was a bust in Oakland. You have to remember that Lane Kiffin never wanted him there and it was a forced pick by upper management.
Posted by Diesel88
Wyoming
Member since Oct 2018
714 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:16 am to
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quote:2006 Original #1: Mario Williams New #1: Mario Williams Haloti Ngata


Ngata's best year was 2010, in which he had 46 tackles and 5.5 sacks.

Williams' best year - 2007 - 43 tackles 14 sacks.

Williams had double digit sacks in 5 seasons, with two different teams. Also seasons with 9 and 8.5 sacks...

quote:

quote:2008 Original #1: Jake Long New #1: Matt Ryan Maybe. I’d have to look at Aqib Talib, DRC, Matt Forte and Calais Campbell.


Oh. Now I understand why you think Haloti Ngata was more prolific than Mario Williams...
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22486 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:27 am to
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2009
Original #1: Matthew Stafford
New #1: LeSean McCoy



The frick you say?
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