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re: Reports: B1G has reached out to Notre Dame, ND Board making a decision in next hours/days
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:45 am to The Egg
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:45 am to The Egg
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I just find it hard to believe that Nike will get left out of these big boy conferences somehow
I agree. Nike could offer to be the exclusive uniform supplier for an entire conference (offering to buy out any existing Under Armour or other contracts), what they would make would easily cover the buyouts.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:46 am to Bluefin
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I could see Virginia Tech and Baylor to the SEC happening.
SEC doesn't want yet another Texas team.
VT and NC State is a possibility and would make sense. Then add FL State and Clemson to get to 20.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:47 am to Quidam65
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I agree. Nike could offer to be the exclusive uniform supplier for an entire conference (offering to buy out any existing Under Armour or other contracts), what they would make would easily cover the buyouts.
Except that little problem with Under Armor and Maryland
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:49 am to Buckeye Backer
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Except that little problem with Under Armor and Maryland
Who said that Oregon would have to go B1G? They may not like southerners but our $ spends too.
And in our case SEC can easily mean "Sports Excellence Conference" without changing anything else.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 9:50 am
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:55 am to Quidam65
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VT and NC State is a possibility and would make sense.
I agree but I think there are laws in the NC State Legislature that all NC schools have to stick together or something.
VT and Miami could work. Would Kansas jump to the SEC?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:03 am to KosmoCramer
It has been becoming inevitable ND needed to join a conference and the Big 10 has always made the most sense in that regard.
Whether they deny it or not, you know the Pac 12 and Big 12 have to be having discussions about possibly consolidating. The Pac 12 did not want to do that last year. Now that the conference has lost their two LA schools in the 2nd largest media market in America, the conference may have no choice if it wants to remain relevant. Same for the Big 12 with OU and Texas gone.
This also gets us close to an expanded playoff and the demise of bowl games. The Rose Bowl was always one of, if not the, sacred calf of the bowl system. With the Pac 12 eventually being reduced to irrelevant so will the Rose Bowl.
Whether they deny it or not, you know the Pac 12 and Big 12 have to be having discussions about possibly consolidating. The Pac 12 did not want to do that last year. Now that the conference has lost their two LA schools in the 2nd largest media market in America, the conference may have no choice if it wants to remain relevant. Same for the Big 12 with OU and Texas gone.
This also gets us close to an expanded playoff and the demise of bowl games. The Rose Bowl was always one of, if not the, sacred calf of the bowl system. With the Pac 12 eventually being reduced to irrelevant so will the Rose Bowl.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:06 am to Bluefin
Clemson, florida state, Miami, UNC, NC state, UVA and VT are the only ACC schools worth considering for the SEC. Really the only schools left worth considering. Every one else is dead weight and brings nothing.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:07 am to Glorious
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All of the sudden, the Big 12 looks more stable than the PAC.
Who cares how stable a G5 conference is?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:10 am to Ostrich
quote:I think ND's deal with the ACC is they can't join any conference in any capacity other than the ACC until 2036.
Could they do B1G football and ACC everything else, til 2036?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:13 am to Marciano1
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think ND's deal with the ACC is they can't join any conference in any capacity other than the ACC until 2036.
Is that contract even public? There are also usually buy out clauses or sometimes periods of time where you can term without cause.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:23 am to Dire Wolf
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Clemson, florida state, Miami, UNC, NC state, UVA and VT are the only ACC schools worth considering for the SEC. Really the only schools left worth considering. Every one else is dead weight and brings nothing.
Getting the original Southern Conference back together.
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On Feb. 25, 1921, representatives from 14 of the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association’s (SIAA) 30 members met at Atlanta’s Piedmont Hotel to establish the Southern Intercollegiate Conference. On hand at the inaugural meeting were officials from Alabama, Alabama Polytechnic Institute (Auburn), Clemson, Georgia, Georgia School of Technology (Georgia Tech), Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi A&M (Mississippi State), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Polytechnic Institute (Virginia Tech) and Washington & Lee.
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Play began in the fall of 1921, and a year later, six more schools joined the fledgling league, including Tulane (which had attended the inaugural meeting but had elected not to join), Florida, Louisiana (LSU), Mississippi, South Carolina and Vanderbilt. VMI joined in 1923 and Duke was added in 1929.
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By the 1930s, membership in the Southern Conference had reached 23 schools. C.P. “Sally” Miles of Virginia Tech, president of the Southern Conference, called the annual league meeting to order on Dec. 9, 1932, at the Farragut Hotel in Knoxville, Tennessee. There, it announced that 13 institutions west and south of the Appalachian Mountains were reorganizing as the Southeastern Conference. Members of the new league included Alabama, Alabama Polytechnic Institute, Florida, Georgia, Georgia School of Technology, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Mississippi A&M, University of the South, Tennessee, Tulane and Vanderbilt.
According to the minutes of the meeting, Georgia’s Dr. Sanford stated that the division was made along geographical lines. Florida’s Dr. J.J. Tigert, acting as spokesman for the withdrawing group, regretted the move but believed it was necessary as the Southern Conference had grown too large. The resignations were accepted and the withdrawing schools formed the new league, which began play in 1933.
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:29 am to Bunk Moreland
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Rocket31, where you at?
Sitting in a dark room, hugging his knees, and sobbing over the state of his crypto portfolio.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:32 am to Chucktown_Badger
I’m fine with UCLA and USC to the B1G because they’re name schools and the roadtrip every few years would be great, but damn that is a ton of travel for them and their fans. Every away game a 3+ hour flight.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:36 am to Glorious
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IMO the SEC is still superior in football even if USC, UCLA, and Notre Dame are added.
I think this absolutely evens the scales after the next couple of years. Point being, players like Bryce Young and Najee Harris probably won't feel the need to go to the SEC for maximum exposure and development.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:38 am to HabaneroBuck
Notre Dame tying themselves to the ACC for a few years was a terrible shortsighted move. Pretty sure they got nothing out of the deal. Looks like it will cost them about $150 million to get out of it.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:44 am to Chucktown_Badger
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I’m fine with UCLA and USC to the B1G because they’re name schools and the roadtrip every few years would be great, but damn that is a ton of travel for them and their fans. Every away game a 3+ hour flight.
they can't even fill their home stadium up when they are good.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:48 am to KosmoCramer
Tom Osborne is suddenly looking like a Nostradamus for making the jump when he did
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:49 am to Dire Wolf
quote:boston college and georgia tech and syracuse and nc state
Who is left to fight the GOR
quote:OU and UT just found out how tough it is
That iron clad contract might not be so tough when actually challenged
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:51 am to BuckyCheese
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It matters to the B1G.
It's more than just an athletic conference.
OK. keep telling yourself that.
I'm not saying they don't care about academics, just that they aren't going to scoff at a great football program simply b/c their academics aren't as good as Rutgers. The BIG10 makes more money if Oklahoma joins than Rutgers.
and they asked USC and UCLA to join so that they could get ND, not b/c they were great at academics. and the BIG10 has a connection to the PAC10 anyway with the Rose Bowl, so it makes sense to combine the PAC and BIG10. They'll end up being one giant conference, but really just a large conference split between mostly PAC schools and then the BIG schools.
And that's really what needs to happen.
Have a giant BIG10 of like 22 teams, and a giant SEC of about 22 teams. Split them up to keep rivalries alive into to divisions. Have the division winners play a championship game. Have the two conference champions play for the national championship. That's basically what's happening right now.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:51 am to WestCoastAg
It would require the Big 2 to decide to divide and conquer the ACC for the GOR to disappear. The question is, does ESPN want the SEC to do that to another property of theirs?
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