Peter Angelos has been the worst owner in sports in recent years

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There isn't a single position player on the team that could start for the Yankees right now.

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Even Hardy is having a worse year than Jeter.

is there a player on Toronto, Bal or TB that would start for the Yanks?

prob not. Maybe Longo or Bautista. Its not that big of a deal. imo


Balt has some decent young arms. they arent totally devoid of talent

You don't think a Jones or a Markakis could start for the Yanks?

Drayton McClane sucks pretty bad.

Yeah, I would have to say the Pirates are at the top of the list of bad ownership.

You've just incurred the Wrath of Baloo.

Prayers sent.

I think the Yankees would love to have
Zach Britton
Chris Tillman
Adam Jones
Nick Markakis

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You've just incurred the Wrath of Baloo.

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Well, I hate Angelos, too, but the situation is nowhere near as dire as Bench makes it seem. In fact, we had the Yanks/O's lineup exchange discussion earlier this year, and there's plenty of players on the O's who are roughly equivalent to the Yanks. The differnce is the Yankees elite players are far more elite. I'm not going to make judgments on a hitter on the first 20 games... there's no way the Yankees will have four guys above 1.000 OPS at season's end.

Are the O's as good as the Yankees? Of course not. But is the lineup as hopeless as presented? Also, of course not. Is it as bad as they've been playing? I don't think so. Every regular, save two, has an OPS below 700. The team is slumping offensively, the question is whether this is their actual talent or will the team rally?

The reason the O's don't have any prospects right now is that they've just graduated their prospects to the Majors. In the past 18 months, the following players have been promoted: Wieters, Jones, Reimold, Arrieta, Britton, Tillman, and Berksen. And Matusz has only been up for a little over two years.

It's sink or swim for a lot of these guys at the MLB level. Making judgments on the team after 20 games is silly, but the O's are likely a 75 win team. There's good, young talent everywhere and the team is a few moves away from being a legit contender. You don't turn around a ship overnight, and this organization was the AL's worst (because the Pirates were even more fantastically stupid) for nearly a decade. It takes awhile to undo all of that damage. Expecting the team to suddenly get good is insane. The team has made improvements.

And let's look at the results so far: the O's won series against the Rays and Tigers, split with the Twins, and lost to the Tribe and the Yankees. Isn't that where most reasonable people would see this team? I wish they hadn't have dropped 4 to the Yanks, but that's life. the Yankees are a much better team. But the O's have already played 10 of their 20 games against the respective division leaders. They aren't as good as those division leaders, and no one seriously thought they were. They've done well elsewhere.

This is a good not great team that needs some breaks. It is nowhere near as bad as a team as it was five years ago.

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Drayton McClane sucks pretty bad.

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What nonsense. The Astros suck right now, overall Drayton has been a good owner. His failing is he mortgagaed the future to win and that bill is now due.

Even bad signings like Carlos Lee were because he thought they needed more offense to win that year.

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God only knows what he says about Blake Griffin behind his back.

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Lord knows what he's said about him to his face.

This is a guy who, in contract negotiations with Danny Manning, lowballed him and told him "that's a lot of money for a poor black kid to have", per court transcripts from Elgin Baylor's lawsuit, as well as bringing female guests into the locker room and telling them to look at "those beautiful black bodies."