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re: MLB Trade Rumors: 07/31/17 Darvish/Cingrani to Dodgers, Kintzler to the Nats

Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:41 am to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:41 am to
When did I mention Eloy?
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:43 am to
I didn't say you did. I'm explaining why they aren't going to move Schwarber. They have once again demonstrated their commitment to him by moving Eloy for Quintana.

The moves are related because Theo said they were. He is committed to these position players thus he could justify moving Eloy.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 11:44 am
Posted by mizslu314
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:12 pm to
Holy smokes, cards just made an amazing trade. Traded a pitcher who will never pitch in the majors for us, in exchange for #26 overall prospect.

#tradebait
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
61068 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Jose Quintana took LSD into work today and said he wasn't even sure where the players' entrance was to Wrigley.


People who tweet need to understand that everyone who reads twitter doesn't know about Lake Shore Drive.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:17 pm to
I like the trade for STL
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:18 pm to
Yeah I can't imagine trying to navigate a major league park while tripping balls
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

That's a ton of strikeouts in the lineup with both Gallo and Schwarber


This. We already have our form of Schwarber. Don't really need two. Baez doesn't work either with Andrus and Odor. It would have to start with Almora or Happ (likely Almora) and that just doesn't do it I think
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:23 pm to
The Cardinals just traded Marco Gonzales for a top 40 prospect O'Neill from the Mariners.
Good lord - the Sox have been trading studs for top 40s, and the Cardinals get one for a stiff.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:25 pm to
Jerry Dipoto will not rest until he dooms Seattle for a decade.
Posted by TheXman
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:26 pm to
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The Cardinals just traded Marco Gonzales for a top 40 prospect O'Neill from the Mariners.
Good lord - the Sox have been trading studs for top 40s, and the Cardinals get one for a stiff.




You'd have to think that this O'Neill guy is just trade bait for another move to be made. If there is on thing the Cardinals have it's a lot of decent but nothing special outfielders....

Giving up Gonzales is nothing though so I'm cool with it.

Also I'm pretty sure O'Neill isn't the 28th best prospect in baseball. I don't think he's even a top 100 guy. Still don't care about giving up Gonzales though.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 12:36 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:27 pm to
With Dave Stewart gone the Mariners very well might have the worst front office in baseball
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:28 pm to
They had a really good offseason, but I think they are gonna push for the postseason only to screw themselves long term.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:28 pm to
quote:


You don't move Eloy if you're intending on trading Schwarber. It just doesn't make sense.



When they traded Eloy, they were saying that Schwarber is their LF of now and the future. I think Baez is the piece they'll deal in a trade for a controllable starter. Then they'll put Happ at 2B.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:32 pm to
Texas needs pitching prospects. Not bats.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63416 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:32 pm to
I don't even see how this is a push for the postseason move. It makes zero sense all around
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:37 pm to
I dunno, maybe outfield injuries? But it looks like O'Neill has been pretty poor in AAA.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

The Cardinals just traded Marco Gonzales for a top 40 prospect O'Neill from the Mariners.
Good lord - the Sox have been trading studs for top 40s, and the Cardinals get one for a stiff.




O'Neill is not really a top 40 prospect by any measure. He's certainly nothing close to Jimenez. Rutherford is overrated imo, but even he is ranked/valued much higher than O'Neill right now.

BA did not have him in their mid-season top 100, BP didn't have him in their mid-season top 50, Law had him outside the top 50.

LINK

Here is a good article about his current value.

quote:

Tyler O’Neill and Friends will not bring back Chad Kuhl, or Julio Teheran, or Jeff Samardzija


He is likely to be in the back end of the top 100 at the best when Pipeline updates, although he has been swinging it better lately.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
16723 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:40 pm to
Big fan. Good trade piece too
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

They had a really good offseason


Did they? The Smyly 3 way trade looks horrendous. What did they do that was so impressive?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:45 pm to
Don't know if I want to post that one
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