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re: MLB Trade Discussion Thread - Greinke to the Astros
Posted on 7/22/19 at 11:41 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 7/22/19 at 11:41 pm to WestCoastAg
Giants win again late vs Cubs, now 1 over .500 and just 2 back of wildcard.
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 11:44 pm to UltimateHog
How that team wins is beyond me. They are effing TRASH!
Posted on 7/23/19 at 2:48 am to MetryMojo
Bc they were playing the Cubs.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:59 am to saint tiger225
They've won 16 of their last 19. They are beating more teams besides the Cubs
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:03 pm to UltimateHog
How the giants can watch the Yankees the last two years and not deal bum and smith is beyond me. They aren’t winning the ws and if they love bum that much then deal him build a better team around him and resign him. Heck just look at the mistakes of the nats last year with Harper
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:24 pm to Adam Banks
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How the giants can watch the Yankees the last two years and not deal bum and smith is beyond me. They aren’t winning the ws and if they love bum that much then deal him build a better team around him and resign him. Heck just look at the mistakes of the nats last year with Harper
the only contending team that they can trade him to without his agreement is the Twins, I think. Otherwise, he would have to give his consent to any deal, and if the Giants are winning with Bochy, I don't see Bumgarner agreeing to anything.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:27 pm to VinegarStrokes
He only has that deal as leverage, the Giants don't wanna tank in Bruce Bochy's final season and the team is not going to keep playing this well. They don't want to waive the white flag but don't want to quit. Which is why a deal with Tampa makes sense, they unload Smith and get some good young players who are ready to play now.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:28 pm to VinegarStrokes
quote:big picture, what are they winning
Giants are winning with Bochy,
They have one of, if not the, worst minor league systems in the sport. They have no legitimate young talent at the major league level. Their next 3 year outlook is apocalyptic. They have two real trade assets that can go a long way in changing that outlook. Do people really think they should hold onto those two to maybe get the 2nd wild card spot?
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:31 pm to WestCoastAg
I'd be beyond infuriated if the giants dont sell this week if I was a giant fan
So I hope to God they dont
So I hope to God they dont
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:32 pm to WestCoastAg
I mean didn't they win the WS coming out of the WC? 
No I don't think they can, but I also didn't expect them, Arizona, etc to be as good as they've been.
No I don't think they can, but I also didn't expect them, Arizona, etc to be as good as they've been.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:34 pm to WestCoastAg
I mean didn't they win the WS coming out of the WC?
No I don't think they can, but I also didn't expect them, Arizona, etc to be as good as they've been.
No I don't think they can, but I also didn't expect them, Arizona, etc to be as good as they've been.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:35 pm to tduecen
The giants are gonna crash. Hard. They are having one of the most lucky two week run i have ever seen in terms of sequencing
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:36 pm to 5 Deep
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There are a horde of scouts from virtually every contender coming into town to see Madison Bumgarner and #SFGiants tonight. The Giants still plan to listen to all offers for Bumgarner before deciding whether to move him, closer Will Smith or other relievers instead, or no one.
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Few see MadBum going anywhere now. Things can change in a hurry but this is typical from rival exec: “No way Giants can sell, they’re on fire.”
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Mets are committed sellers now, but they don’t believe they can do total rebuild in NY. Syndergaard is coveted by others (esp Yanks but many teams) but remains unlikely to be dealt now. The hope is 1 good start for Wheeler will draw interest. Vargas probably most likely to go.
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:16 pm to WestCoastAg
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big picture, what are they winning
They have one of, if not the, worst minor league systems in the sport. They have no legitimate young talent at the major league level. Their next 3 year outlook is apocalyptic. They have two real trade assets that can go a long way in changing that outlook. Do people really think they should hold onto those two to maybe get the 2nd wild card spot?
so, again...
unless it is a trade with the Twins, Bumgarner has to approve any deal to a contending team. Even if the Giants front office made the decision today to give up and try and trade Bumgarner, I don't see him agreeing to anything. He and Bochy are likely pretty tight. These players don't give a shite about 3 years from now, especially with him being a free agent after the year. If they are winning, and have a legit chance at a wild card spot, then I could see Bumgarner declining all deals in an attempt to have one more run with Bochy.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 2:06 pm to tduecen
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Mets are committed sellers now, but they don’t believe they can do total rebuild in NY. Syndergaard is coveted by others (esp Yanks but many teams) but remains unlikely to be dealt now
The Mets' dysfunction pleases me. They need to completely tear it down in the offseason but they won't do it. Van Wagenen will double down and go all in.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 2:06 pm to VinegarStrokes
Agreed. The NTC was obviously crafted for leverage purposes but I dont see him waving it while they’re in contention.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 2:10 pm to VADawg
Nah, I disagree on tearing it down. They have a good club when healthy. Cano and Diaz obviously have to perform better but still.
McNeil, Alonso, Nimmo, Confonto, Cano, Ramos and Frazier are all reasonably good players (I'm assuming Cano isn't as bad as what we are seeing)
Having Thor, Diaz productive, Matz, and others the Mets should realistically be better next season.
McNeil, Alonso, Nimmo, Confonto, Cano, Ramos and Frazier are all reasonably good players (I'm assuming Cano isn't as bad as what we are seeing)
Having Thor, Diaz productive, Matz, and others the Mets should realistically be better next season.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 2:11 pm to VinegarStrokes
I agree with you. I don’t see him approving a trade unless they get very cold between now and the deadline.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 2:13 pm to VinegarStrokes
i misunderstood. i get ya
Posted on 7/23/19 at 2:14 pm to tduecen
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McNeil, Alonso, Nimmo, Confonto, Cano, Ramos and Frazier are all reasonably good players (I'm assuming Cano isn't as bad as what we are seeing)
Having Thor, Diaz productive, Matz, and others the Mets should realistically be better next season.
They’ve said this since 2015.
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