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re: Mickey Mantle hit a ball 565 feet
Posted on 7/11/17 at 12:57 am to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 7/11/17 at 12:57 am to PrimeTime Money
You're misunderstanding mine I think. I was trying to say twisting it like the other cat was. Should've been more clear
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 12:57 am
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 12:58 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Everyone is doughy now. They aren't better athletes. They need drugs from bad diet and McDonalds to not be doughy.
Mickey mantle was a fricking alcoholic who drank til his liver eventually killed him and babe Ruth drank, ate hot dogs during games and smoked like a chimney 
Harper is only 24 years old and doesn't even have his old man strength yet. There is videos of him deadlifting 505 lbs this past offseason
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:00 am to Bench McElroy
i know they didn't do exit velocities in '97 like they do now, but Big Mac hit that more in a line as opposed to your average HR that crests and then drops.
it's entirely possible that the models used to illustrate trajectory didn't take into account behemoths like McGwire in '97. he was one of a kind even among the steroid era.
That Seattle HR came on a Randy Johnson fastball that was one of a kind...
it's entirely possible that the models used to illustrate trajectory didn't take into account behemoths like McGwire in '97. he was one of a kind even among the steroid era.
That Seattle HR came on a Randy Johnson fastball that was one of a kind...
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 1:06 am
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:00 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
First off its baseball not football it's a game of skill not brute force. It's not impossible for a man like Mantke to create the bat speed required to hit tape measure home runs. If raw body strength were the only thing that mattered why didn't Richie sexton break any records why doesn't Matt Adams lead the league in home runs why isn't Jose Canseco the single season or alltime record holder? Ppl who believe this nonsense don't have a clue how to hit a baseball in the first place and you'll never hear any baseball ppl echo this theory. Ppl now days rather discredit a record than actually earn one.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:03 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Who knows if Mantle hit a ball 565 feet.
Papers confirmed it...
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:08 am to Madking
quote:It takes skill and strength you moron. Some people are really strong but aren't the best hitters so they don't hit a ton of homeruns.
First off its baseball not football it's a game of skill not brute force. It's not impossible for a man like Mantke to create the bat speed required to hit tape measure home runs. If raw body strength were the only thing that mattered why didn't Richie sexton break any records why doesn't Matt Adams lead the league in home runs why isn't Jose Canseco the single season or alltime record holder? Ppl who believe this nonsense don't have a clue how to hit a baseball in the first place and you'll never hear any baseball ppl echo this theory. Ppl now days rather discredit a record than actually earn one.
Some people are great hitters but don't generate a lot of power so they don't hit a lot of homeruns.
Then there are some guys like Barry Bonds who was always a good hitter and had power, but he then added strength (whether with steroids or not), and he became a fricking monster and crushed the homerun record.
Size and strength matters.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:13 am to PrimeTime Money
Thanks for proving my point. Btw Bonds hit 46 home runs before he was big his 3rd most home runs ever in a season.
Example
Jose Altuve hit a 400 foot home run tday.... Prime Time logic - "impossible he's too small" lol
Example
Jose Altuve hit a 400 foot home run tday.... Prime Time logic - "impossible he's too small" lol
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 1:15 am
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:34 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Steve Kerr: “They’re all right. The game gets worse as time goes on. Players are less talented than they used to be. The guys in the 50s would’ve destroyed everybody. It’s weird how human evolution goes in reverse in sports. Players get weaker, smaller, less skilled. I don’t know. I can’t explain it."
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:22 am to PrimeTime Money
When it comes to hitting a baseball and a golfball for that matter technique beats strength every time. Anyone who has played either sport will know that.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:09 am to Bench McElroy
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the human limit for hitting a baseball at sea level, under normal temperatures and with no wind, is somewhere between 450 feet and 470 feet.
Disproven several time tonight in less than optimal conditions.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:16 am to PrimeTime Money
i feel like I'm arguing with my wife about something she knows nothing about.
But thanks for the mcdonalds post. It helped me realize I was arguing with an idiot and it was time to stop and just say "you're right"
ETA: not u PTM, was talking to the goofballs
But thanks for the mcdonalds post. It helped me realize I was arguing with an idiot and it was time to stop and just say "you're right"
ETA: not u PTM, was talking to the goofballs
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:17 am
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:29 am to Schmelly
And the argument about BP fastballs vs in game fastballs is another factor that adds to disproving the myth.
"BP tonight was 75-80, Mantle hit 565 off of 90 or so"
Soooo, you're telling me that every player of today that is twice the size of Mantle, stronger AND theyre turning around 95+ IN GAMES struggle to get with 65 feet of one of mick's many blasts?
Oh, and Mantle was supposedly 19 years old when he hit the 565 ball. A 19 year old mick can hit a ball further than a 35 year old juiced up freak BARRY BONDS. Bonds was mickey's equal in every "technique" there is, and he was bigger & stronger. Lol
Just think for one second, if Mick & babe hit 565/575 respectively, you don't think that between Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, Canseco, Thomas, Arod, Stanton, Pujols, & now Judge would have accidentally grabbed a hold of one, just once? You saw first hand tonight how much easier a big guy hits a ball
"BP tonight was 75-80, Mantle hit 565 off of 90 or so"
Soooo, you're telling me that every player of today that is twice the size of Mantle, stronger AND theyre turning around 95+ IN GAMES struggle to get with 65 feet of one of mick's many blasts?
Oh, and Mantle was supposedly 19 years old when he hit the 565 ball. A 19 year old mick can hit a ball further than a 35 year old juiced up freak BARRY BONDS. Bonds was mickey's equal in every "technique" there is, and he was bigger & stronger. Lol
Just think for one second, if Mick & babe hit 565/575 respectively, you don't think that between Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, Canseco, Thomas, Arod, Stanton, Pujols, & now Judge would have accidentally grabbed a hold of one, just once? You saw first hand tonight how much easier a big guy hits a ball
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:41 am
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:43 am to PrimeTime Money
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He was 6'0" and 195 lbs. As a power hitter, yeah he really does
Not saying he hit it that far but this argument is dumb. Look up the longest players in the PGA. Both sports have a lot to do with rotational force generation. Yeah being stronger and taller has advantages but not as much as people like to think.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:52 am to Hoops
Every argument of Mantle's "technique" will be answered with "Bonds". You're gonna tell me that mick's "skill set" was so much greater than Barry freaking Bonds' skill set(it wasn't) that it made up for 50lbs & HGH....and then another 50 feet or so...despite turning around balls that were coming 5-10mph slower
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:58 am
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:54 am to Hoops
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Not saying he hit it that far but this argument is dumb
That's not the argument being made. It's more "well if he did hit it that far, then how come players of equal skill who are much bigger and stronger haven't come close?"
Posted on 7/11/17 at 5:23 am to Schmelly
There are just too many variables. Is pitching better now? Does the ball rotate less in flight and that limit carry? Did any of the guys mentioned hit one 500' into a stiff wind? Do they measure HRs in batting practice? Again, I'm not taking a side it is just impossible to speak with such certainty that there's no way he hit it a greater distance than recent players.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 5:29 am to Madking
True. In high school I was 5'10, 165. We had a few solid 6'4, 250 type guys. I hit home runs they could hardly hit it to the outfield. They could also out lift me by about 200 pounds in every lift in the weight room. Why could my little arse hit it farther? Hitting a baseball is technique and skill not brute force.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 6:12 am to Schmelly
MM hit the facing of the upper deck in left in yankee stadium. Pretty solid shot.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 6:27 am to msudawg1200
quote:I love posts like this. A high school anecdote to explain something about professional baseball.
True. In high school I was 5'10, 165. We had a few solid 6'4, 250 type guys. I hit home runs they could hardly hit it to the outfield. They could also out lift me by about 200 pounds in every lift in the weight room. Why could my little arse hit it farther? Hitting a baseball is technique and skill not brute force.
Mantle could hit it 60 feet further than the 90s juiced up hitters and the monster hitters of today because "skill"? Give me a break.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 6:29 am
Posted on 7/11/17 at 6:53 am to Madking
A-fricking-men!
Awesome post.
Awesome post.
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