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re: Mickey Mantle hit a ball 565 feet

Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:46 pm to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:46 pm to
Of course you hit farther.

That's what I've been saying the entire time.

Making an argument about the stupid HR Derby is absurd.

Force vs. Force is going to make the ball travel farther...

Than batting practice guy.

So Mantle, Ruth, etc. in live games and not bullshite exhibitions could of course hit the ball farther than these guys.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 10:47 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:49 pm to
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So Mantle, Ruth, etc. in live games and not bullshitee exhibitions could of course hit the ball further than these guys.
Sorry we're destroying your childhood mythology you bought into.

It's hard to let go.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:49 pm to
People sure are gullible.

Comical that people think hitters in the 30s had more power than hitters today.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:50 pm to
Nobody was hitting balls to center field back then? I don't ever know what to say to something that obsured. Yes the parks you named were short in the corners but not in the alleys and were some of the biggest ever from left center to right center. There were also a lot of parks that were 350 and over down the lines which is 25-45 feet longer than any tday. Just look at launching lads like pnc the gabp in cinci Milwaukee Yankee stadium minute maid or any modern ball park, they're all tiny ban boxes built specifically to hit home runs in.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 10:53 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:51 pm to
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Nobody was hitting balls to center field back then?
Nobody was hitting homeruns to center when the fence is 500 feet. I didn't literally mean they never hit a ball into centerfield.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 10:52 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:52 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 10:53 pm
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:52 pm to
Can you imagine their faces when they learned Coke/Pepsi wasn't a sports drink? Dem food pyramids tho
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:53 pm to
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"country strong"

Naturally - muscles weren't for show or made by roids.

It was working strength - not puffy shirt muscles.


Look at the torque on that swing with the arm strength and trunk tree lower body.

Lasorda said Mantle could hit it a mile and was the greatest talent he ever saw.


All true but there's still no way he hit a HR 565 feet though. The real distance is believed to 506 feet and that was massively wind-aided due to a 40 MPH wind that was blowing out. LINK

And just think about it this in a logical sense. During the steroid era with all of the circus freaks and juiced balls which caused HR totals to skyrocket, there has only been one home run confirmed to be hit over 500 feet in a game over the past 30 years. That was Cecil Fielder hitting the ball out of County Stadium in 1991. LINK

So if none of the steroid guys can hit a ball over 500 feet, how is it possible for Mantle to hit the ball 565 feet? The real answer is that it's not possible because there's no way he ever hit a ball that far.
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:56 pm to
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So if none of the steroid guys can hit a ball over 500 feet, how is it possible for Mantle to hit the ball 565 feet?


Steak and 'taters
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28014 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:57 pm to
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So if none of the steroid guys can hit a ball over 500 feet, how is it possible for Mantle to hit the ball 565 feet? The real answer is that it's not possible because there's no way he ever hit a ball that far.
Because they aren't thinking with their brain and thinking logically. They are thinking with emotion and hanging onto the myths of their childhood.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 10:59 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:58 pm to
Oh ok gotcha well no they couldn't that's my point. How many home runs are hit from alley to alley during the course of a season now days? You can erase 95% of the ones in center over half of the power alley home runs and nearly half of the corner bombs. There are definitely more power hitter now for all the reasons mentioned but the guys who hit a historic amount before the mid 80s did not enjoy a single advantage tdays hitters have and anyone who knows about hitting knows it's more about your eyes and hands than your gorilla muscles. Mantle and Ruth's stats hold up no matter what ppl say.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70562 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:59 pm to
Frank Thomas never juiced and hit multiple 500 foot home runs why can't other non juicers?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:59 pm to
Ruth would crush them out of center at the Polo Grounds, and that is right at 485. Mantle was said to have more power.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70562 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:02 pm to
Jack Nicholas was hitting the ball 300 yards with a wooden golf club it's not about muscles it's about technique. Ppl who never played sports can't wrap their minds around this simple fact.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 11:03 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:03 pm to
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Because they aren't thinking with their brain and thinking logically. They are thinking with emotion and hanging onto the myths of their childhood.
Yup. These 6'5" 250lb monsters with modern supplements and training struggle hitting it over 500, but dudes from the 30s were hitting it 560?

This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 11:03 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39414 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:03 pm to
So all newspapers lied back then?

MLB history and records confirms Ruths 575 as "verified."

I guess Red Grange didn't score 6 Tds against Michigan and over 409 yards rushing.

More fake news.

More skeptical.

I guess before roids, newspapers just made up shite to supplement for roids. Maybe 20's athletes took coke...that was a legal drug...maybe they were all coked up? Would that help?

It seems everyone wants to believe nobody can do anything but for drugs and what happened 5 minutes ago because they think evolution is working on a 5-minute interval and next guy up is the GOAT.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70562 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:03 pm to
Mantle didn't play in the 30s Sherlock. You don't even know what you're talking about.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28014 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:04 pm to
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Oh ok gotcha well no they couldn't that's my point. How many home runs are hit from alley to alley during the course of a season now days? You can erase 95% of the ones in center over half of the power alley home runs and nearly half of the corner bombs. There are definitely more power hitter now for all the reasons mentioned but the guys who hit a historic amount before the mid 80s did not enjoy a single advantage tdays hitters have and anyone who knows about hitting knows it's more about your eyes and hands than your gorilla muscles. Mantle and Ruth's stats hold up no matter what ppl say.
Hitters would change their approach if they were hitting in a ballpark that is 260 down the line and 500 to center.

And the pitching today is lightyears ahead of what it was when Babe Ruth played. To act like these guys playing today only use their "gorilla muscles" and aren't extremely skilled is unbelievably silly.

You sound like somebody who believes that size does not matter in a fight. "Anybody who knows about fighting KNOWS it's about skill.. not about size!!!" Yeah, that's bullshite. Size absolutely matters, and of course you have to be a skilled hitter to hit a lot of homeruns, but don't tell me strength doesn't matter and it's all about technique. "Eyes and hands" as you call it. Ridiculously stupid.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:05 pm to
lmfao

Babe in the 20s.

Mantle in the 50s.

The point remains. People with half a brain know it's myth and bullshite.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 11:07 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28014 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:09 pm to
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Jack Nicholas was hitting the ball 300 yards with a wooden golf club it's not about muscles it's about technique. Ppl who never played sports can't wrap their minds around this simple fact.
Oh yeah? How many long drive winners do you see with the build of Jack Nicklaus?

Look, technique matters, but so does strength. You're a retard to think otherwise and it's YOU who has never played sports if you believe that.

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