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re: Lane Kiffin is in trouble

Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:10 am to
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
68999 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:10 am to
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I’m not saying the kid is lying or telling the truth, but coming from someone with a sibling who’s been suffering from mental health issues for over 10 years I hate when people try to act like it’s not a real thing.


Mental health issues are very real. However a good chunk of society has figured out that they can just use it to get away from all accountability.
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
1729 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:11 am to
If this dude was in the military, he would be getting a court martial... now it's a hit piece on espn. I pray for our future with these soft victim young adults.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11698 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:12 am to
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MS is a 1-party consent state. As long as the player knew there was a recording it's legal within the borders of MS (and LA).

I believe you’re misinterpreting 1-party consent. If you are in a conversation with 1 other person, “you” can’t be the only one that consents to recording your own conversation with someone without their knowledge.

Just think about it, that seems a little silly
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7019 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:15 am to
I think I like the Lane train more now
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104483 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:17 am to
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I believe you’re misinterpreting 1-party consent. If you are in a conversation with 1 other person, “you” can’t be the only one that consents to recording your own conversation with someone without their knowledge. Just think about it, that seems a little silly
He is right.

I can record you without you knowing because I myself know the recording is happening.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:17 am to
quote:

I believe you’re misinterpreting 1-party consent. If you are in a conversation with 1 other person, “you” can’t be the only one that consents to recording your own conversation with someone without their knowledge.

Just think about it, that seems a little silly



quote:

(e) A person not acting under color of law who intercepts a wire, oral or other communication if the person is a party to the communication, or if one (1) of the parties to the communication has given prior consent to the interception unless the communication is intercepted for the purpose of committing any criminal or tortious act in violation of the Constitution or laws of the United States or of this state, or for the purpose of committing any other injurious act.


Don't believe a LA lawyer? Ask a MS lawyer

quote:

Mississippi is an one party consent state pursuant to Miss. Code Ann. § 41-29-531(e). What that means is that at least one party in the conversation has to know it is being recorded. So if you are having a conversation with your supervisor you can record the conversation as you would count as the one person consenting to the recording. You normally don't have to tell them you are recording the conversation. This of course also means that you can't just leave a recorder around the office to record when you are not part of the conversation.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:20 am to
It reminds of a recent study I read from the VA. They started this suicide awareness campaign and any time you interacted with the VA, whether in person or over the phone, they asked veterans if they were having suicidal thoughts. They began to see a rise in veterans claiming suicidal thoughts and when they asked veterans about it something like 80% said they had never thought about it until they started hearing it every time they dealt with the VA
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
25592 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:20 am to
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"Get out of here," Kiffin said. "Go, you're off the team. You're done. See ya. Go. And guess what? We can kick you off the team. So go read your f---ing rights about mental health. We can kick you off the team for not showing up. When the head coach asks to meet with you and you don't show up for weeks, we can remove you from the team. "It's called being a p---y," Kiffin said. "It's called hiding behind s--- and not showing up to work."


There will be people that are mortified by this exchange






I am not one of them
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
70628 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:24 am to
Not surprising coming from the generation that thinks you should be thrown in prison for hurting someone’s feelings.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:25 am to
Nothing wrong here.

Sounds like the dumbass player wanted to leverage mental issues to change positions.

I really don’t know how these coaches put up with this idiots on a daily basis. I guess the millions help.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6595 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:27 am to
If that audio transcript is real, I am 100% on Kiffin’s side.

Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25890 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:27 am to
Kiffin shouldn't get in trouble for that.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
16897 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:27 am to
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"I don't see why you have to be disrespectful, honestly," Rollins said.

Dude doesn't show up to practice or meetings, and ignores his head coach for weeks, yet has the balls to call his head coach disrespectful. I don't blame Kiffin for going off and cutting him.

Kiffin even said that he wasn't diminishing his mental issues, and that he just wanted to talk to him. He probably gave this guy more leash than most bosses would.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
20620 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:27 am to
Kiffin was 100% right if the player avoided him and the team for weeks like is claimed. The kids is definitely a pussy and Kiffin has every right to kick his arse off the team. Kiffin shouldn’t get in any trouble over this unless the kid has proof he said worse things than this.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9179 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:28 am to
I like Kiffin more after reading this.

Kids are soft as shite. Ridiculous.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75080 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:30 am to
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If the kid has documentation about his mental health he has every right to go awol

I’m not saying the kid is lying or telling the truth, but coming from someone with a sibling who’s been suffering from mental health issues for over 10 years I hate when people try to act like it’s not a real thing.


As someone with mental health issues, I want to point out that ghosting your employer, recording them, and basically black mailing them makes us all look bad, and frick this dude for it. I've got depression and anxiety, and at times it overwhelms me. That doesn't mean I'm infantile and need my hand held.

Depression, anxiety, other mental issues are real things. That being said, for some reason we as a society are weaponizing these issues and attempting to use them for victimhood status.
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 7:32 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117260 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:44 am to
Probably a safe bet this idiot kid has a relative or acquaintance or family member that has sued his employer and filed an EEOC charge

Claiming nebulous mental health issues to goad your employer into a lawsuit is becoming more and more common
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 7:44 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59511 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:49 am to
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If the kid has documentation about his mental health he has every right to go awol

I’m not saying the kid is lying or telling the truth,


I mean, he can't be arrested.

He isn't entitled to be able to go AWOL with no repercussions relative to the football team, the school, or any employment.

And, he shouldn't be entitled to that.

quote:

but coming from someone with a sibling who’s been suffering from mental health issues for over 10 years I hate when people try to act like it’s not a real thing.


I know it's real. But, it's your sibling's (and you as family) responsibility to make sure they get the help they need. Certainly, you don't think it's an employers responsibility to do that, do you?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69820 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:58 am to
Arik Gilbert 2.0.

transfer out, pussy.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:26 am to
Kiffin did nothing wrong here.

I'm a big advocate for metal health and the mental health crisis in this country but way too many people like Rollins use it as a crutch/excuse to be lazy fricks
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