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re: Iowa State has 17 players returning, 1 starter. The transfer portal is ruining CFB.

Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:11 am to
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71097 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:11 am to
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That isn't going to happen. Someone is going to have to pay the guy for the year he sits out. The new school should have to pay the guy to sit out. If he's that good, it might be worth it. Hopefully that would cut back on how many transfers teams take. Mae it cost the schools who are willing to pay.



I dont see that happening. Schools will find the money to pay them while they sit. NIL is young and look at some of these stupid numbers. They will find the money

The player has to suffer in order for them to think about it twice. Not the school
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33819 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:16 am to
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The player has to suffer in order for them to think about it twice. Not the school
Not a court in the land that's going to agree to punish young scholar athletes for wanting better working conditions. The teams that can afford to pay a guy who's not contributing will pay them. They used to do it under the table for kids that couldn't get qualified. Big spenders will happily do it.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41087 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:20 am to
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If the courts reversed the NIL decision it would be beautiful


Don't even need to go that far. Just revert the transfer rules back to how they were ~2010.
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2200 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:31 am to
NIL isn’t the problem, immediate eligibility is. The portal is the problem. Make these kids lose years if they want to transfer so bad. I guarantee that it would fix the issues.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17587 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:13 am to
This is to be expected. Matt Campbell and his staff recruited the kids. They signed on because they wanted to play football for Matt. He left, so many don't have a strong reason to remain at the school anymore.

I don't see anything wrong with this.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5563 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:20 pm to
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None of us have a problem with someone trying out multiple jobs or multiple schools until they find the right one.

I certainly wouldn't want job restrictions placed if I tried out a landscaping job at Texas aTm, then thought MSU might have a cooler climate, but then missed home and tried out Texas St, but then got a better offer in a dry climate at UNLV, but then realized it was way too hot for landscaping, only then to be told by some governing body told I have used up all my job-changing allowances.


Exactly, so why did we upend what so many fans loved when the players have the option to either participate in the NCAA or not. Just as in your example, your decision to work in landscaping is just that -- your decision.

Athlete's participation is not a mandate. If they don't like the structure, rules, or policies of the NCAA, they don't have to play a collegiate sport. The courts are treating these players like they're some lowly victims and we should all be so empathetic that they want to have their cake and eat it too. They voluntarily chose to participate in an association with over 120 years of history and precedence, and are now using the courts to change the rules so far in their favor the sports are now nearly unrecognizable.

As others have said in this thread, NIL is not the primary issue. It is the lack of portal regulation that makes every player on every team a free agent every year.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73503 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:30 pm to
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NIL isn’t the problem, immediate eligibility is. The portal is the problem. Make these kids lose years if they want to transfer so bad. I guarantee that it would fix the issues.

The portal and immediate eligibility is obviously the root of the problem, but adding NIL to the mix is throwing gasoline on that fire. If NIL wasn't a thing, you also wouldn't see nearly as many guys transferring because there wouldn't be as big of an incentive to do so. But when you attach money to the equation, it becomes a lot more attractive. That said, players getting paid can't go away at this point, but there are things the NCAA can do to fix the transfer problem
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Shooter
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
9211 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:31 pm to
Let it burn to the ground!
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55739 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:33 pm to
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We need a 40-50 team superconfence with 16 team playoff and a NIL/salary cap.

Real contracts with no portal


You're describing a NFL minor league system that would somehow be attached to universities rather than to a city with investors paying for the minor league team.......it's a fricking mess.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29228 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:45 pm to
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You're describing a NFL minor league system that would somehow be attached to universities


The universities need to grow a pair and tell those athletes who don’t want to “play school” to ask Get Gordon and the others to help them form their own minor league. If you don’t want to play school, then you shouldn’t want the school’s name on your jersey.
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
2240 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:43 pm to
Get rolled over? I solved my problem. I don't watch it anymore. Lol.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10685 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:35 pm to
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Coaches sure as shite aren’t there to educate either. All about Straight Cash homie.
Big time College football is about multi billion dollar TV contracts, a tool to increase donations, corporate sponsorship, high ticket prices, and gambling apps
Ain’t about education, school spirit, or loyalty. This isn’t middle school football. Baws need to stop crying about the changes to college football. It’s not about love of the game anymore and coaches aren’t glorified PE teachers either. Roll with it or get rolled over.


Why the frick are professional teams associated with schools at all?

That bullshite is just because "they always have been". It is farcical on the face of it. I root for my school's team like most do, but the football team is like the associated theater if the school has one. It is entertainment, has nothing to do with why regular people pick a certain school unless they are too stupid to be going.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44291 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:48 pm to
I mean, LSU in 2020 wasn’t much better. You do what you have to do. Honestly, with the portal, Iowa State is in much better shape to handle this than 2020 LSU. Hell, they will even get to have Spring practice too. Suck it up Cyclones.

Indiana managed.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:04 pm to
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Its all coming


Everything but what we had and loved. That’s never coming back.

Cest la vie, move on I guess. It was fun while it lasted.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:25 pm to
it stops when boosters realize the roi on nil is horrendous, and get bored of it. Actually owning partt of the football program isn't as good as a pro team, who actually makes $$$.

And when the boosters grow tired, the fixers really come to play. It's already cluttered with corruption, it will get worse
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22941 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:37 pm to
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If players still had to sit out a year when transferring, it would solve a lot of the issues with NIL. But I don’t think that toothpaste is going back in the tube.


A Federal judge & the DOJ ruled that the NCAA transfer rules violated Antitrust Laws. There is no going back & it's amazing that so many don't realize this or simply ignore it.


Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:46 pm to
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About 1/4 of FBS schools had a head coaching change this offseason. I don’t think there should be an exception for a coaching change

NFL players’ contracts aren’t voided if the coach leaves. Why should paid athletes in college be any different?


A lot of their NIL deals are done on a annual basis, and so are scholarships so they're not breaking any contract.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22941 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:54 pm to
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Coaches sure as shite aren’t there to educate either. All about Straight Cash homie.
Big time College football is about multi billion dollar TV contracts, a tool to increase donations, corporate sponsorship, high ticket prices, and gambling apps
Ain’t about education, school spirit, or loyalty. This isn’t middle school football. Baws need to stop crying about the changes to college football. It’s not about love of the game anymore and coaches aren’t glorified PE teachers either. Roll with it or get rolled over.


NCAA v. Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma in 1984 started it when Oklahoma took the NCAA to court to fight for the rights of the universities to control their own television rights. Georgia joined in the lawsuit later. Prior to that the NCAA owned all the television rights in every sport for every university. Once the universities won in court, they handed those rights to the conferences they belong too.

This eventually lead to the television boom of more & more games being televised as it also happened at the same time as the cable television boom. It all snowballed into conference championship games, a facilities arms race & skyrocketing coaches salaries.

The Ed O'Bannon v. NCAA ruling was just the icing on the cake. The NCAA stubbornly fought & appealed the ruling for 7 years all the way up to the Supreme Court. 7 years of getting their asses handed to them in court. 7 years where they could have come with a plan & system in advance to have structure in place for the changes. Instead of wasting money & time on lawyers fighting a losing battle in court, they should have been proposing elements together for the upcoming changes that they knew were coming.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22941 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:57 pm to
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The universities need to grow a pair and tell those athletes who don’t want to “play school” to ask Get Gordon and the others to help them form their own minor league. If you don’t want to play school, then you shouldn’t want the school’s name on your jersey.


Yes, the universities are just gonna casually kill their cash cow.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22941 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 6:00 pm to
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it stops when boosters realize the roi on nil is horrendous, and get bored of it. Actually owning partt of the football program isn't as good as a pro team, who actually makes $$$.

And when the boosters grow tired, the fixers really come to play. It's already cluttered with corruption, it will get worse


The booster side is one side we barely hear from though. The ones we do see & hear from openly brag about their contributions to NIL & supporting their alma mater is sports. If that's the case, these millionaires & billionaires are winning financially in some shape, form or fashion otherwise they wouldn't continue to invest on a yearly basis.
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