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re: How many state titles would John Curtis have in the highest classification?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:28 pm to lalongneck
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:28 pm to lalongneck
Lol put Curtis against St. Amant and EA and see how that works out
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:30 pm to lalongneck
I was at the game, he a 3 complete squads, off, defense, and special teams. He runs different linemen for all three teams. Catholic has 1st teamers this year and a select few back-ups.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:34 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Curtis wasn't touching Evangel and West Monroe in the late 90s. JT knew this and was scared to move up.
They did play Evangel the first game of the season in NOLA sometime in the late 90's - the year was when Evangel beat the shite out of Catholic in BR.
It was a close game. Evangel beat JC by 8 or 10 I believe. However, it wasn't really indicative of how much better Evangel was.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:38 pm to 12Pence
quote:1999 27-20 up until for a long time JC was 17-0 vs cath league teams.
They did play Evangel the first game of the season in NOLA sometime in the late 90's - the year was when Evangel beat the shite out of Catholic in BR.
It was a good, close game. Evangel beat JC by 8 or 10 I believe.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:14 pm to choupiquesushi
the catholic golden era started slipping the day otis left st aug.. titles in 79, 78 and 75 Bro Mart in 71.......
the catholic league has long had a superiority complex... but in the 30 years prior to the split.. 3 state titles...
rummel 12 and shaw in 87... Runner ups 09 rummel, shaw 2000, 1997 and 1988, bro mart in 89......
being the media center of the state the catholic league used to get the lionshare of pub... fueling that superiority - but since katrina socio economic and demographic changes in NO have hurt them as a whole - read more soccer players in nola now than football players....
but i'll queue the "but they beat each other so much chatter" and the talent is spread out at too many schools(BR) had more football playing schools per capita than NOla did... so did shreveport and monroe....
the big problem in NOLA is, that they have blinders on to the rest of the state....and I learned that by splitting time growing up in Nola and out of NOLA...
the catholic league has long had a superiority complex... but in the 30 years prior to the split.. 3 state titles...
rummel 12 and shaw in 87... Runner ups 09 rummel, shaw 2000, 1997 and 1988, bro mart in 89......
being the media center of the state the catholic league used to get the lionshare of pub... fueling that superiority - but since katrina socio economic and demographic changes in NO have hurt them as a whole - read more soccer players in nola now than football players....
but i'll queue the "but they beat each other so much chatter" and the talent is spread out at too many schools(BR) had more football playing schools per capita than NOla did... so did shreveport and monroe....
the big problem in NOLA is, that they have blinders on to the rest of the state....and I learned that by splitting time growing up in Nola and out of NOLA...
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:41 pm to SaintNation
I'm sure that Curtis skirts some of te rules regarding recruiting, etc. But in terms of juicing, etc. JT Curtis runs a pretty clean program.
Where he gets everybody, is that the majority of the kids on the team start there around 1st or 3rd grade. In 6th grade he gets his middle schoolers running the veer offense and he just keeps them running it through graduation from high school. Think about it, if you kept a core of kids together from 6th grade to 12th grade they will have been running the veer for 6 years by the time they are seniors, they would be pretty good at it. Also, the veer is not hard to comprehend. Now think about doing this over a period of 40 plus years
All he really has to do is periodically search out the playgrounds for good running backs and some skill players. Nowadays, most of the kids come to him before they reach high school
Where he gets everybody, is that the majority of the kids on the team start there around 1st or 3rd grade. In 6th grade he gets his middle schoolers running the veer offense and he just keeps them running it through graduation from high school. Think about it, if you kept a core of kids together from 6th grade to 12th grade they will have been running the veer for 6 years by the time they are seniors, they would be pretty good at it. Also, the veer is not hard to comprehend. Now think about doing this over a period of 40 plus years
All he really has to do is periodically search out the playgrounds for good running backs and some skill players. Nowadays, most of the kids come to him before they reach high school
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:46 pm to KiwiHead
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I'm sure that Curtis skirts some of te rules regarding recruiting, etc. But in terms of juicing, etc. JT Curtis runs a pretty clean program.
what about hold backs?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:50 pm to chalmetteowl
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Rummel and Evangel won before the split
Yep, Rummel won the final "combined" 5A title over Barbe in 2012.
I wish they'd do the early season games in the Dome again. I wouldn't mind going watch some quality teams knocking heads early in the season.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:23 pm to 12Pence
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Evangel beat the shite out of Catholic in BR.
I remember that being a pretty close game until a fumbled punt.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:24 pm to KiwiHead
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I'm sure that Curtis skirts some of te rules regarding recruiting, etc. But in terms of juicing, etc. JT Curtis runs a pretty clean program.
i know on 2 occasions that the eventual valedictorians were previously held back.
Ya, what they were doing under the rules was legal, but that is fricking slimy, i dont care who you are
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:35 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I agree... hold backs are the seedy underbellie of HS sports....
i know on 2 occasions that the eventual valedictorians were previously held back.
Ya, what they were doing under the rules was legal, but that is fricking slimy, i dont care who you are
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:40 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Yeah, Catholic actually tied it up in the late 3rd/early 4th qtr. before Evangel pulled away by a couple TDs IIRC. Think that one is on YouTube as well. 99 semis I believe.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:48 pm to KiwiHead
quote:they can be pretty good at it, but for a HS team to just be physically competitive for that long in a row is just improbable.
Think about it, if you kept a core of kids together from 6th grade to 12th grade they will have been running the veer for 6 years by the time they are seniors, they would be pretty good at it.
Curtis and Rummel have been the two top programs in NOLA (yes Karr I know), and it starts with their lines
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:51 pm to lsupride87
Curtis would have 6-8 titles if they always played in the highest class. They have had some REALLY GOOD teams over the years. But most of the time... their depth just wears down the teams they play. When their roster goes 80-100 deep, and they are playing teams that go 40-50 deep... it's no contest.
Now that they are in the Catlick League... they are playing against teams that have same size rosters as them. They are still very good... but it's not the insane level of dominance.
Now that they are in the Catlick League... they are playing against teams that have same size rosters as them. They are still very good... but it's not the insane level of dominance.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:02 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Curtis would have 6-8 titles if they always played in the highest class.
I don't see 6-8 titles if they always played in the highest classification.
Yes, they had some teams that could have won titles, but you have to think those teams wouldn't have nearly the amount of talent that they did if they didn't have dozens of titles at lower classifications to attract kids to the school.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:16 pm to KiwiHead
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Where he gets everybody, is that the majority of the kids on the team start there around 1st or 3rd grade. In 6th grade he gets his middle schoolers running the veer offense and he just keeps them running it through graduation from high school. Think about it, if you kept a core of kids together from 6th grade to 12th grade they will have been running the veer for 6 years by the time they are seniors, they would be pretty good at it. Also, the veer is not hard to comprehend.
People always say this and yes they may have a core group of players have been there from middle school, but many of their stud players don't go to Curtis until high school or late in middle school when it's obvious they have potential to be a recruit.
For instance just about all the kids from South Lafourche that went to Curtis were already great players at SL before they transferred to Curtis to get more attention. It's not like Curtis developed them into some stud athletes, they already were that. Hell even the head coach at SL sent his kid to Curtis so he could get recruited.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:36 pm to clhstrojans
Curtis is also not getting the kids the use to. The rise of De la Salle, resurgence of the Catholic League and schools like Riverside keeping their hometown studs, has really played a big role in Curtis’ inabilities to win at the highest level.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:37 pm to Shoulderchoke
Resurgence of the catholic league?
Shoulder coke What do you mean
Shoulder coke What do you mean
Posted on 12/12/17 at 7:36 am to choupiquesushi
Well, Rummel, St. Aug, Jesuit, and Bro Martin have all had some nice runs recently and had some very good players come through. That coupled with some upgrades to some of the campuses make those schools options for good players who are trying to decide where they want to play. I feel like in the 90s and 2000s Curtis was so dominant that they were getting a lot more kids just based on prestige. I know a few kids that were considering Curtis recently but didn’t go because of either their facilities or just the fact that they felt like another school could give them a better education AND still allow them to compete at a high level.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 7:38 am
Posted on 12/12/17 at 9:14 am to High C
Coach Boone disagrees...
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