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re: How many state titles would John Curtis have in the highest classification?

Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:04 am to
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:04 am to
the veer works just fine thank you........


not the best offense when you need to throw and can't....

bears (like jesuit in 2014) did a great job of not letting the counter beat them... got burned a couple of times on option 14 found the guy out of place and made good decisions... but with his injury and not being able to throw late they were dead in the water when time wasn't on their side.... they were hoping for that busted D assignment late but never got it.....
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:05 am to
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Lol put Curtis against St. Amant and EA and see how that works out
JC played SA a few times years back.. I think each game was very close.


EA has 3 SEC level players.....
Posted by KiwiHead
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:13 am to
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Rummel


It all started with Easton Roth back in the 1970's. They started off just hoarding in all of the kids in East Jefferson via the Catholic elementary route and corraling in Metairie playground, Johnny Bright and Girard playgrounds.


Then about 15 - 20 years ago when Jay Roth became the coach, they started recruiting for players.....Hank Tierney at Shaw did much the same thing in the 1980's . He could still be there today, if he did not try to tell the new Headmaster that he was Shaw and that the Headmaster should just sit down and shut up
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:20 am to
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the veer works just fine thank you........


not the best offense when you need to throw and can't....
I just came away so much more impressed with the coaching of the 35 year old first year coach from Catholic......



Both defenses shut down the initial run


So catholic adjusted and ran multiple wide receiver sets and threw the ball to the outsude and seam. Great coaching



Curtis simply kept running the ball, hoping the talent would eventually win out.......Not great coaching


Just my two cents from someone who watched his first John Curtis game ever
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:25 am to
There's just more competition now... The areas where Curtis could just pull whoever have shrunk
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:29 am to
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So catholic adjusted and ran multiple wide receiver sets and threw the ball to the outsude and seam. Great coaching



Curtis simply kept running the ball, hoping the talent would eventually win out.......Not great coaching
you're letting the results of the game dictate your opinion... If Curtis housed one on the final drive you'd be complimenting them for sticking to what they do
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:32 am to
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you're letting the results of the game dictate your opinion... If Curtis housed one on the final drive you'd be complimenting them for sticking to what they do
No I wouldnt.......


I think it is a simple approach that has worked for JT due to superior talent and players remaining in a system.


I honestly was shocked when I saw they were a veer team......With all I had heard about Curtis and JT, I thought they would have been a spread team
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 10:34 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:43 am to
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Just my two cents from someone who watched his first John Curtis game ever


I've seen em play about 60-70 times, they have not executed quite as crisply the last couple of years as they have in the past....

when an opposing QB can remain upright most of the game short passing game is tough for them - mainly because their DBs are used to QB's not being upright long.

I have seen them score 3 fourth quarter 50 yard plus td's on counters and dives more times than I can count.. because of 1 player being out of place.... that did not happen sat... and once everyone could see the broken finger prevented 14 from throwing like he is capable - the box got crowded.

that 35 year old coach is an outstanding coach and that is putting it mildly.


also a lot of beating JC is surviving and minimizing the pops they will get - fortunately for C JC fumbled on one and the WR elbow touched the ground on another...
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 10:45 am
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:47 am to
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I've seen em play about 60-70 times, they have not executed quite as crisply the last couple of years as they have in the past....

when an opposing QB can remain upright most of the game short passing game is tough for them - mainly because their DBs are used to QB's not being upright long.

I have seen them score 3 fourth quarter 50 yard plus td's on counters and dives more times than I can count.. because of 1 player being out of place.... that did not happen sat... and once everyone could see the broken finger prevented 14 from throwing like he is capable - the box got crowded.

that 35 year old coach is an outstanding coach and that is putting it mildly.


also a lot of beating JC is surviving and minimizing the pops they will get - fortunately for C JC fumbled on one and the WR elbow touched the ground on another...
I guess yall are right.


I just thought for the "best coach in state history", I was going to see something different than the fricking veer
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 10:51 am
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:53 am to
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I just thought for the "best coach in state history", I was going to see something different than the fricking veer


Is this your first season following Louisiana HS football? everyone in the nation knows Curtis runs the veer.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:53 am to
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I just thought for the "best coach in state history", I was going to see something differently than the fricking veer
winingest in history.....

I'd put 4-5 coaches in same sentence with him... but they don't usually have quite the "recruited or next level recruits players that most people think they do either. One thing about the veer(and I ran the veer) is that you DON'T need linemen to push far.... mostly you need brief counter or cut blocks to allow the qb to read who is where and what they are doing - and it happens very quickly... If in fact you are blowing people off the ball - the QB rarely keeps and rarely gets hit or hit hard.... nothing wrong with keeping it simple.....heck a lot of the spread teams are simply running the veer out of the shotgun except the dive is replaced by an inside qb KEEP....one thing i think that staff is missing the guy that is ball state too...
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:55 am to
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staff is missing the guy that is ball state too...


That's JT's son, Johnny. My guess is he's up there to get some college experience and return back to take over when his old man hangs it up.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:00 am to
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That's JT's son, Johnny. My guess is he's up there to get some college experience and return back to take over when his old man hangs it up.
yep.... I dunno... I think he likes the next level and is doing well....
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:01 am to
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yep.... I dunno... I think he likes the next level and is doing well....


he's in line to own the entire school when his old man passes. He's going back
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:01 am to
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Is this your first season following Louisiana HS football?
It is my first time watching Curtis


I went to Catholic, we never played them


Since graduating, I have watched exactly two high school football games


Catholic vs Rummel

Catholic vs Curtis
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:03 am to
Just thought it was common knowledge They start running the same offense, obviously at a lesser level, in the 3rd grade, playing playground teams. By the time they're in HS it is ran to perfection. I always said Malachi going for 1400 yards there in 2 seasons is like going for 4,000 at a different HS.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:22 am to
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Curtis simply kept running the ball, hoping the talent would eventually win out.......Not great coaching


That’s just all they know. Not waiting for talent to win out, but waiting for that one slip up

Man I don’t like Curtis but they are taking some unwarranted hits on this board. They could have competed with any program in 5A the last 25 years. Their championship prospects would have been lower just because Evangel was automatic and when they weren’t around, WM cleaned up. But year in year out you’re talking about top 5 team statewide. Not just some years, but every single year
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:25 am to
Just people who don’t know what’s up Les. Curtis won’t beat themselves.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:28 am to
Haven’t you lived in BR for quite some time? You’ve never seen Curtis play? Not ragging on you or anything, just seems odd



**didnt realize you already touched on this subject
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 11:31 am
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:28 am to
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Their championship prospects would have been lower just because Evangel was automatic and when they weren’t around, WM cleaned up. But year in year out you’re talking about top 5 team statewide. Not just some years, but every single year
I think they would have been like Catholic high of the 90s/00s but slighlty better...


Catholic did this:

4 quarter finals-3 losses to WM/Evangel
7 semi finals-all losses to WM/Evangel except 1
1 finalist


So 11/20 years they made the quarters or better, with 9 of those years losing to only WM or Evangel


People like to say Catholic choked, but all their good teams lost to WM or Evangel. Hard to call that choking
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 11:29 am
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