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re: Horace Grant says Michael Jordan lied constantly in 'Last Dance', calls him a 'snitch'
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:41 pm to Rep520
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:41 pm to Rep520
Isaiah said he and Jordan have had dinner multiple times, even signed a pair of Jordans for his son.
Was taken back by what Jordan said about him.
Was taken back by what Jordan said about him.
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:43 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Pippen painted himself in a negative light
yeah, I agree with this completely.
And Krauss was treated harshly but he's also the guy that basically ran off the greatest coach ever and punted on a chance at ring #7 because he wasn't getting enough credit
now THERE is a guy that would get destroyed by the modern day social media and player empowerment generation
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:52 pm to AlbertMeansWell
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I love Charles though
Yea me too and I definitely count Charles Barkley as one of the top five greatest Alabamians of all time.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:02 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
Well I haven’t and what’s funny is that you’re so reliant on a pre-programmed rebuttal that you have to use it because you can’t talk about what’s actually going on.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:23 pm to Rep520
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Only on this board, where I've repeatedly called him the presumptive GOAT, is that a hate boner.
Lol coming from the guy who had a story about MJ being a bad dad probably memorized
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:33 pm to MF Doom
You can equate Rep520 to the time Don Lemon said he wasn’t a democrat and threw a fit cause someone suggested it.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:01 pm to Bench McElroy
Grew up in that era, always have viewed MJ as the GOAT, also always thought not a good person.
Wish his ego would've tried on aging Robert Parish, and learned some humility when he got choked out by The Chief on the ground.
Medical Bill may have been up to the task too?
Wish his ego would've tried on aging Robert Parish, and learned some humility when he got choked out by The Chief on the ground.
Medical Bill may have been up to the task too?
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:14 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Do you think “Medical Bill” Laimbeer was playing hard or intentionally trying to injure dudes and possibly end careers?
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:18 pm to moester75
Laimbeer was intentional, but not trying to end careers, as much as win by all means and DGAF.
Medical Bill, was MJ's nickname for oft-injured and aging teammate Center Bill Cartwright.
Medical Bill, was MJ's nickname for oft-injured and aging teammate Center Bill Cartwright.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:20 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Damn I totally misunderstood Medical Bill. I
Never claimed to be a genius. It was a fine line that Laimbeer straddled imho.
Never claimed to be a genius. It was a fine line that Laimbeer straddled imho.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:27 pm to moester75
That's the level prick we're talking. To be that malicious to your own teammate.
Driven greatness on the floor, to the detriment of one's own humanity.
Driven greatness on the floor, to the detriment of one's own humanity.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:46 pm to AlbertMeansWell
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MJ and Tiger have both completely cut Barkley out of their lives.
Two guys who don't like to hear the truth about themselves.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:53 pm to MF Doom
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It's hard to say Grant's wrong about any of this.
Really? Sounds like an angry dude rambling because he got called out for snitching
The reality is the author of that book probably had numerous teammates telling him stuff because it seemed like players didn't really like MJ much when they played with him. Time may have changed their perspective because of the success they had together, but it was probably easy to get his teammates to dish out the dirt back then when they were playing with him.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:20 am to Bench McElroy
The MJ fanboys are not going to like this...
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:33 am to Big EZ Tiger
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Two guys who don't like to hear the truth about themselves.
I think Tiger has improved greatly. MJ doesn't seem to have done so.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:06 am to Bench McElroy
Horace Grant should make his own documentary then. Problem is nobody gives a shite about Horace Grant.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:13 am to Hat Tricks
Good point. So long as you were great at something you should have every opportunity to write your own history about it. Otherwise, frick you.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:19 am to Bench McElroy
There's a lot of truth here.
MJ said a line in one of the early episodes - Pippen was out after back surgery, and Rodman had gotten kicked out of the game....and MJ said that Dennis "left him out there by himself". Really? By yourself?
BS
MJ is the greatest, most decorated, most dominate athlete of my lifetime. HE was clutch in the biggest of moments and his record against Hall of Fame players and stacked teams in the playoffs is tremendous - but ....
He is a gigantic narcissist. As far as I can remember, there was serious shade thrown at every opponent AND teammate in this docu-series, with the exception of Phil Jackson.
The Pistons beat his a$$ 3 years in a row but they were terrible and undeserving champions. NO Michael, you needed Scottie and Horace Grant to mature. You needed your team to improve and you needed to make adjustments to your own game in order to overcome the 2 time champs.
The shade thrown at Scottie Pippen is repulsive. Go check out the box scores of the '91, '92 '93 and 1997 NBA Finals and see Scottie's averages for the series -
20 points, about 8 rbs, and 5-6 assists.
MJ said a line in one of the early episodes - Pippen was out after back surgery, and Rodman had gotten kicked out of the game....and MJ said that Dennis "left him out there by himself". Really? By yourself?
BS
MJ is the greatest, most decorated, most dominate athlete of my lifetime. HE was clutch in the biggest of moments and his record against Hall of Fame players and stacked teams in the playoffs is tremendous - but ....
He is a gigantic narcissist. As far as I can remember, there was serious shade thrown at every opponent AND teammate in this docu-series, with the exception of Phil Jackson.
The Pistons beat his a$$ 3 years in a row but they were terrible and undeserving champions. NO Michael, you needed Scottie and Horace Grant to mature. You needed your team to improve and you needed to make adjustments to your own game in order to overcome the 2 time champs.
The shade thrown at Scottie Pippen is repulsive. Go check out the box scores of the '91, '92 '93 and 1997 NBA Finals and see Scottie's averages for the series -
20 points, about 8 rbs, and 5-6 assists.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:23 am to AwesomeSauce
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If we're honest with ourselves this wasn't a docu-series, but a Jordan retort to all his naysayers over the years. Pippen not good enough to win without him and weak. Rodman was a headcase he had to control. The teams they went up against were great and despite all the obstacles Jordan did it all with a bunch of guys that without him would be doing coke and walking out of practices. It was entertaining, but this wasn't a docu-series, but just Jordan saying to the Lebron who just went hero down 3-1 to an all-time great team that "I'm the GOAT b$%#h."
Don't forget "Phil Jackson was some guy coaching in Puerto Rico that nobody wanted until Michael Jordan made him a championship caliber coach."
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:25 am to wheelz007
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The Pistons beat his a$$ 3 years in a row but they were terrible and undeserving champions.
I didn’t pick up on the “undeserving” champions thing in the doc - what did Jordan say that suggested he felt this way?
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The shade thrown at Scottie Pippen is repulsive
What Pippen shade? All I remember was when we refused to go back into the game, which pissed everybody off
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