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re: Honest assessment of the CFP 4 Team Playoff era (2014-2023)

Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:42 am to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:42 am to
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I hated the fact that all the playoff games were on ESPN.

Playoffs games in all sports being moved to cable has collectively ruined sports.

It all started back when MNF was moved from ABC to ESPN

ESPN moved the BCS and CFP to ESPN
Fox moved MLB playoff games to FS1
NCAA put the men’s Final Four on TBS

Important games should be OTA on network TV
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19215 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:53 am to
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It was the same 4 teams rotated every year, maybe the off chance Notre Dame would sneak in and get annihilated. From 2015-2018 was probably the worst period in College football with it being the Alabama & Clemson show.

Would it have been much different if it they were still playing under the BCS rules?

We don't know what will happen with this new format, as others have already pointed out; the matchups could still be much worse.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:56 am to
FOX sucks. Showing The Masked Singer or some shite instead of play off baseball.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51849 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:30 am to
Maybe playoff baseball just isn’t that big a deal anymore
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:32 am to
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Playoffs games in all sports being moved to cable has collectively ruined sports.


Other than fewer people being able to watch them, how has it ruined anything?
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
20980 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:41 am to
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Just say what you mean.

Alabama was so good it ruined your viewing experience.

Fortunately the new rules are leveling the playing field.
Posted by glassman
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:47 am to
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Maybe playoff baseball just isn’t that big a deal anymore


Maybe. Doesn't mean the decision is something I like.
Posted by sms151t
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Member since Aug 2009
140509 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:13 pm to
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So you think the #1 vs #12 games are going to be so much better than the #1 vs #4 blowouts?



The ONLY way this happens is if the 12 seed pulls off 2 wins against 5 and the 4 seed.

If that happens, it means the 12 was seeded incorrectly, but that is okay.


Posted by theballguy
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Member since Oct 2011
19278 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:53 pm to
I don’t care which teams are in it as long as they are great teams. I just like to see teams executing at a high level. All teams now are weak af. It’s not even good football anymore.
Posted by theballguy
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Member since Oct 2011
19278 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:54 pm to
I don’t start watching MLB playoffs until the LCS’s.
Posted by Frac the world
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 5:30 pm to
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I guess you prefer the era of Bama, Ohio St and Clemson rotating as the top 3 in the country?


So who exactly do you think is going to make a Cinderella run to make the Semi-Finals/Finals?

Boise? Iowa State? BYU? Indiana?

It’s going to be the usual big dogs in the end. The era you disdain rolls on, we’ve just got two more rounds of blowouts before we get there
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172310 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:53 pm to
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Other than fewer people being able to watch them, how has it ruined anything?

It gives the perception of the games being less important.
Posted by Poichess
Member since Jun 2019
1119 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:12 pm to
I liked CFP 4 and think playoff expansion is great, but the era of computer rankings was truly the best. At that time, people just didn’t understand it.
Posted by olemc999
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Member since Oct 2010
14561 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:34 pm to
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Up until maybe the last 2 years every playoff game was a blowout.


The playoff was intended to separate the contenders and the pretenders. It was never meant to have great games.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27880 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:00 pm to
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when there’s more parity now than there ever has been.


I disagree. All we are seeing is different blue bloods rise to the top. Washington last year is the exception, but they have competed nationally before.

Texas? Georgia? Oregon? Penn State? Those are blue bloods and new bloods. If you want real parity, then you’ll be looking for Indiana, Pitt, and some upstart Big 12.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27880 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:07 pm to
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It’s going to be the usual big dogs in the end. The era you disdain rolls on, we’ve just got two more rounds of blowouts before we get there


Exactly, the Bama loss to Vandy was fun, but it won’t keep them from making the playoffs. The Georgia-Texas game isn’t an elimination game, which I guess puts an added emphasis on aTm-Texas if the Ags hold it together. Then there’s the possibility of a rematch and a completely irrelevant game in the SECCG.
Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
2155 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:34 pm to
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Then there’s the possibility of a rematch and a completely irrelevant game in the SECCG.


In my dream scenario, any conference not doing a true round robin or using divisions (like the B10 and SEC) will have rules that block rematches in the CCG, either partially or wholly. Give the CCG auto-berth to whoever finishes atop the standings via your usual rules, and then starting with #2, anyone who's played #1 already is eliminated. Go on down the list with your usual tiebreaks and this no-rematch clause until you find an "at-large" team that creates a unique matchup.

It eliminates the possibility of two teams playing three times, gives a possible fringe team a chance to secure a bid, doesn't unduly punish the #1 seed, blocks some instances where a team could "backdoor" into a bid, and gives some meaning back to the regular season games.

I would consider relaxing the rematch rule if one of those at-large teams actually beat #1 in the regular season. Gives #1 a chance to avenge the loss, while also giving the at-large a chance to prove that they weren't a fluke.

Might be a stupid idea. I just hate rematches. The idea that, say, Oregon could be in a position to have to go 3-0 against OSU to win a natty, when OSU might only have to go 1-2 against Oregon, just bugs the piss out of me.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
4251 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:05 am to
I don’t think it was the fault of the playoff only having four teams. The issue was simple: Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, and Oklahoma were too dominant. Too many power conferences had the same prohibitive favorites every year. That would have left any number of playoff teams feeling insufficient.

The transfer portal, NIL, conference realignment, and specific circumstances at the aforementioned schools (three of the four replaced their head coaches with inferior successors, and Swinney refused to adapt to the other changes) have introduced parity again. Expanding the playoffs probably helps too, but it’s less relevant than democratizing the talent pool and forcing more of the big programs to play each other during the regular season.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6093 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 2:37 am to
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Thanks Les Saban needed a foil badly in his conference with all the same advantages and the other half of the Game of the Century just wasn’t up to the task…


That’s a little bit of revisionist history, along with not being totally correct.

Les Miles was more than up to the task in 2011 - beating Little Nicky on his home field in the game of the century.

Let’s also not forget the SEC office and its malfeasance with bridge schedules, not to mention the weekly officiating biased displayed toward Alabama. So to say that “LSU had all the same advantages” as Alabama under Saban is false.

Honestly, had LSU lost on the road at Bama by the same 9-6 score in the game of the century, there is no way LSU would have jumped Okie State to play in the BCS title game. I also seriously doubt LSU would have gotten the same mulligan in 2017 that Alabama got.
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