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re: Herm Edwards is out as ASU's head football coach

Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33964 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:31 pm to
Chicken needs to open up the Coaching Changes board.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15366 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:32 pm to
Experiment=faulure

The thought was that hiring a respected guy who's been in and around the league for years would equal success for a college program.

Was not the case. Being a good/decent NFL coach doesn't mean you will be a good college coach. Same thing vice versa. Doesn't help that the last time he was actually coaching before this job, majority of his team was in elementary school
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:32 pm to
He will end up somewhere

For his "coaching skills" of course
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58128 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:35 pm to
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He’s a good man but not a very good coach.


He got caught cheating, blamed everyone else for it, and took zero responsibility.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15929 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Kliff would be a good hire. He wouldn’t even have to move

He was pretty bad at Tech, and reportedly hated recruiting.

That said, he seems like someone ASU would seriously consider.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95928 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:54 pm to
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Dang who saw that coming when he was hired
Oh shut up. We absolutely failed on this board with Herm predictions, and I’m talking about myself too. We thought it was going to be as epic of a failure as Ed O at ole miss

He was 29-26 and 17-14 in conference
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:10 pm to
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Experiment=faulure

The thought was that hiring a respected guy who's been in and around the league for years would equal success for a college program.



I guess you forgot about the part where the AD who hired him was his former agent.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96437 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:10 pm to
These things come in threes. Who gets canned next?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423392 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

The thought was that hiring a respected guy who's been in and around the league for years would equal success for a college program.

The problem was Napier was supposed to do the actual coaching and he left after a day or 2 for ULL
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96437 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:12 pm to
That would be the problem with a CEO style coach. You are only as good as your assistants and you have to pay the hell out of them so they stay rather than leave you holding your dick in your hand.

Miles and O prove that.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49834 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:16 pm to
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These things come in threes. Who gets canned next?



Harsin or Kelly.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35626 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:26 pm to
Now who didn't see this coming?

I'm gonna be head coach but more like a father figure...and then I'll delegate everything to my friends.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59321 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:30 pm to
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He lasted longer than I expected.


that’s what she said
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3814 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:10 pm to
His presser was one for the ages when hired.
Posted by peaster68
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2011
6118 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:32 pm to
Perfect opportunity for Dan Mullen to return to coaching.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116322 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

Harsin or Kelly
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
8108 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:39 pm to
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Perfect opportunity for Dan Mullen to return to coaching.


Damn I didn't think about that, he'd potentially be a great hire assuming they don't get hammered with penalties. Low expectations, can scheme around the talent there, and it's not the pressure cooker Florida was.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 9:40 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47818 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:13 pm to
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We thought it was going to be as epic of a failure as Ed O at ole miss He was 29-26 and 17-14 in conference


Right but Arizona St should be much more solid than that
Posted by WeBleedCrimson
Member since Mar 2008
21708 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:14 pm to
BoB would be good hire. Please take him
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15929 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:56 pm to
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Right but Arizona St should be much more solid than that

Should they though? I know that's the general consensus, and they're always mentioned in the occasional "sleeping giant" threads, but they haven't been much more solid than that since the Frank Kush era in the 70s.

Bruce Snyder obviously was seconds away from a national championship, but he was a little over .500 aside from that special '96 season.

Dirk Koetter was considered a promising young coach from Boise, but he could never get over the hump and finished 6 games over .500.

Dennis Erickson was an established, successful coach at multiple programs, but fizzled out quickly after a good first season. He went exactly .500 at ASU.

Todd Graham was poached from Pitt and was considered a good hire, despite being a douchebag. After a couple of 10-win seasons, he went 18-20 over his final three.

Herm was an unusual hire, but he basically performed at the same level ASU has been historically. I'm not sure who they turn to now to change that.
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