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re: DAT: 2017 World Champions Houston Astros offseason discussion: ASTROS ACQUIRE GERRIT COLE

Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:29 pm to
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This next season, at least early on, should present the chances for Fisher, Moran, tKing, Reed and Davis to show what they can do.


How close are we to totally writing Reed off? Do we think he will ever be a starter on this ball club? Lots of homers and RBI in the minors, to go with a low average and a boat load of strikeouts. He would have fit in well with the 2014-15 Astros, but fortunately Castro, Carter, Valbuena, and Rasmus are no longer anywhere to be found.

What is Reed's value in a trade? Is he considered a valuable enough chip to fetch something decent in return?
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:47 pm to
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How close are we to totally writing Reed off?


It's make or break for him this year.

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Do we think he will ever be a starter on this ball club?


Hope I'm wrong but no. His bat has looked too slow for big league pitching.

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What is Reed's value in a trade? Is he considered a valuable enough chip to fetch something decent in return?


Not much value anymore. A throw-in to sweeten a deal maybe.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:48 pm to
I hope Reed learned some marketable Skills in college.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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84316 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:56 pm to
Well, he learned All-SEC left handed pitcher. Maybe Ludlow can look into that?
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:59 pm to
Thx for sharing the video

Now I have to go rewatch one of the games.

Not sure which one yet. Too many to choose.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9547 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:01 pm to
I look forward to Reed and JD Davis being our 8th & 9th inning guys in 2020
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:02 pm to
7th and 8th inning guys before LMJ closes.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:49 pm to
OT: Sounds like Jim Crane has his eyes on sort of a ballpark village like St. Louis has done, like the Cubs have done (within the limits of Wrigleyville) and what Arlington has planned around their new park.

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"Chicago is a great example. They used to pack the house, [Wrigley Field] was the place to be even when they were terrible," Crane said. "Now they're good and you really see the improvement."

Crane said the next step is building a park around Minute Maid. The Astros are working with the mayor to convert one of the parking lots to a park, but details on exactly where and when have not been nailed down yet.

The Astros are also working with New Hope Housing on relocating its operation. After helping to raise money for a new New Hope location, the Astros purchased the 18K SF Hamilton Street Houses property alongside Minute Maid Park from the nonprofit. Crane said the plan is to knock down the property and fully convert it to premium parking for Astros games.

The improvements are just two in a long list. "There's a lot of things that need to be improved, but there's opportunity, so I think it will happen fast," Crane said.






From a different article

quote:

Crane figures he still has more to do. He owns several more plots of land near Minute Maid downtown and is plotting out what to do with them. “I think the neighborhood is going to transform and that’s good for the ballpark,” he says. “This whole area started changing. What really started (the buying spree) is we started to get closed in.

“We basically tried to make investments to control the environment.”


Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:51 pm to
Correa Salary Park on the way fam!

Posted by TrapperJohn
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:11 pm to
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It's make or break for him this year.


Hopefully he understands that and puts some work in this offseason. He's been on that Jon Singleton diet the past 2 years. Martes has a gravy gut too, but that's forgivable if he can still chunk it 97 mph.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28788 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 6:49 pm to
AJ Reed should rebirth himself as a fireball throwing Lefty out of the pen
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 7:38 pm to
1 week ago Yu was imploding and George was getting ready for his monster dong
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24965 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 7:45 pm to
Just a heads up for Lafayette area Astro and baseball fans.

On Nov 19th at 6 PM in the Festival Ballroom at the Cajundome Convention Center there will be a "Dining on the Diamond" for the Ross Granger Memorial Fund, raising scholarship monies.

Aside from getting the chance to see me, Brent Strom is the keynote speaker. Keuchel, Harris, Sparks, and possibly Bregman also will be there. There's a live and silent auction.

Details can be found at rossgranger.org
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 7:58 pm to
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The Astros are working with the mayor to convert one of the parking lots to a park, but details on exactly where and when have not been nailed down yet.
I'm still not happy that the parking lot that used to be right behind the Crawford Boxes has been replaced with an apartment building. That was my spot.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:56 pm to

When it's time, here is what Astros superstars are projected to make:

Jose Altuve: 10 years, $250 million
Carlos Correa: 6 years, $150 million
George Springer: 6 years, $115 million
Dallas Keuchel: 5 years, $100 million
Alex Bregman: All the Ships in the Houston Ship Channel

If your Crain, you have to retain Jose Altuve or you lose all credibility.

If I have to choose between Correa and Springer, I go Springer everytime.

Run from Keuchel. He will ask for that kind of money and someone will pay it, I just don't want it to be Houston. $20 million can be better served elsewhere.

Bregman? Well, we don't have to worry about retaining Bregs for awhile, but when it is time, it may be somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 year, 200 million.

This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 5:02 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:58 pm to
Astros

[Depth Chart – Payroll]

Why it works: The Astros, you may have heard, are fresh off of a World Series victory. Staying at the top of the hill, though, means always looking for the next opportunity. The team has a fair bit of money committed to its 2017 payroll, but relatively little beyond it. And it’s easy to imagine freeing some added salary by non-tendering or trading players such as Evan Gattis and Mike Fiers. While Marwin Gonzalez was a revelation and Josh Reddick had a strong season in the first year of his contract, the corner outfield is a clear spot for the ’Stros to make strides. Putting Stanton’s bat in the middle of the lineup might also free the organization to dangle young players such as Derek Fisher and Kyle Tucker in a bid to add controllable, high-quality pitching. This is the sort of move that could represent an appropriate tradeoff given the fact that the team is obviously at or near a high point of MLB talent. And we do know there has been some past interest on Houston’s behalf.

Why it doesn’t: Houston had the game’s best offense, by a wide margin, in 2017. So this isn’t really a target area, particularly with Fisher, Tucker, and others on the rise. It’s arguable that the Houston front office would be wiser to target shorter-term role players that fit in with the current roster core, rather than taking some risky gambit at adding another central piece. Pitching, though, can always be improved; the Astros could instead look to spend their money to pursue a quality starter, top-end closer, and/or bullpen depth. Plus, we don’t really know how high the payroll can go. And the future money would remove resources that might be used if the team tries to strike long-term deals with current stars such as George Springer, Carlos Correa, Jose Altuve, and Dallas Keuchel.


Outlook: Once the confetti is swept up, the Astros will be left facing a tough but enviable question of how to build upon the success. Stanton will have to be a name that’s at least considered, but it’s anybody’s guess whether he’s seriously pursued.
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9547 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:59 pm to
When it’s time, Correa will get 6/120? Wut? Triple that maybe.

Try like hell to lock up Altuve this winter and proceed from there. Everyone else is 3+ years away
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 5:01 pm to
By the time Correa is a FA there will be someone in the mlb making damn near 40 m a year and he’s gonna want to be close to the highest paid guy in the mlb
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 5:01 pm to
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Carlos Correa: 6 years, $120 million
dude will make 200 million +
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