re: Cam Newton would not trade his MVP for a Super Bowl ring

I mean, this isn't what you'd want to hear from your franchise quarterback. But for a guy looking back in hindsight at his career, I really don't think it is that bad of a take.

Winning Superbowls require much more than just 1 person being on point. Cam deserves his fair share of the blame for that game, for sure. But also, what if his receivers got open more, what if his line held their blocks longer, what if his runningbacks could have found the hole. What if the coach gameplanned better and called better plays.

The flip side of this is what if someone asked:

“Would you rather Eli manning or Dan Marino’s career”

I think only a complete weak loser would say Eli

I can 100% guarantee MaHomeBaw would rather have Super Bowl hardware rather than MVPs.

Cam has like 8 kids and probably doesn’t pay child support.

This reminds me of the night he won the Heisman a girl I went to high school with unfriended me after she made such a big deal about Heisman winners and how Auburn's 3 Heisman winners were a bigger accomplishment than any of Alabama's national titles and how she didn't care what happened vs Oregon the next month now that Cam won the Heisman. Apparently she didn't like the fact I called her an idiot for saying that and how she and Cam were probably the only people that thought that and how every other player not named Cam would easily trade his Heisman win so they could win the natty. "Well good thing I'm not on the team then!"

Anyway congrats Cam and you're still an idiot for wanting a MVP instead of a SB ring.

When you’re an idiot, you tend to say some idiotic things.

quote:

---

2 Super Bowls and HOF (he’s getting in whether or not you agree that he should) vs 1 MVP and HOF.

---

Being absolutely one of the best QBs of your generation or being barely above average for your generation but on a good team

Once again only a weak loser chooses Eli’s career

Your goal as a man in any profession is to be the best you can be. To choose “I don’t really want to be the best I would rather be mediocre at a good team(or company)” is weak

That’s why the premise of this question is always so dumb

quote:

---

Your goal as a man in any profession is to be the best you can be. To choose “I don’t really want to be the best I would rather be mediocre at a good team(or company)” is weak

---

I completely agree with you.

This isn’t specific to Cam, but being a professional football player is, you know, a fricking job - the point of which is to make money to support your livelihood. Above all else, people want money and job security over the company being ultra successful. Being an NFL MVP (the best in the game) is generally going to do more for that than winning a Super Bowl. Dan Marino is a hell of a lot more likely to be in commercial in 2025 than Mark Rypien or Trent Dilfer or Jeff Hostetler.

The players who have achieved their financial goals and are HOF locks might start to put team interests ahead of their own just like an 80-year-old billionaire may think about his legacy more than his next billion. But when you’re still trying to achieve your financial and individual goals, people are often more concerned about themselves.

Phil Jackson said something to the effect back in the 70's. Not all but a lot of black athletes value individual success over team success. Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone, but a lot are like this. This is Cam, his personal success always came first.

quote:

---

Being absolutely one of the best QBs of your generation or being barely above average for your generation but on a good team

---

That’s irrelevant to the MVP vs Super Bowl debate though. Marino would be considered one of the greats without the MVP he won in the second year of a 17 season career.

Ask this question of someone who has both. I doubt Elway would trade one of his Super Bowls for another MVP. Peyton Manning may be willing to trade an MVP for another Super Bowls.