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re: Boise State's Bowl Record since 2004
Posted on 8/8/10 at 2:50 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Posted on 8/8/10 at 2:50 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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Spot on IMO!
you do realize BSU turned down Nebraska in a 2:1 deal right? BSU = scared of playing BCS teams multiple times
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Posted on 8/8/10 at 3:02 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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The difference is, I'm not saying anyone's wrong without being able to back it up.
you're not backing anything up, you are making up a narrative to fit your view. LSU started flat in the NCG there fore it must be nerves. I can't possibly be because they had not played in a month or because Ohio State had a really good team and stopped them or anything. Wells made a long run early cause Steltz fell, if a player not got in a bad position or never fell maybe you could say it was nerves, but since that happens all the time, kind of hard for you to back up.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 3:26 pm to H-Town Tiger
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you're not backing anything up
You didn't ask me to back anything up. You just said I was wrong, without giving evidence why.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 3:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
SFP, Boise does matter as they are being ranked, just because they arent in an "elite" conference does not matter. Was the ACC an elite conference or was Miami playing an elite schedule when they won the NC for first time...no.
Your bias is showing, the 2:1 for Boise is a losing deal also, it should be 1:1. Boise is in position to turn that down, as evidence by going into Autzen and winning. But then again that game doesnt matter to you, but the fact is they have beaten Oregon, Oregon St., OU, TCU, and others people just remember the bad game Zambranski had at UGA. Judge Boise on the year at hand not the past or your percieved bias. Why isnt everyone calling Boise to go there? I am positive people dont want to go play them there.
Your bias is showing, the 2:1 for Boise is a losing deal also, it should be 1:1. Boise is in position to turn that down, as evidence by going into Autzen and winning. But then again that game doesnt matter to you, but the fact is they have beaten Oregon, Oregon St., OU, TCU, and others people just remember the bad game Zambranski had at UGA. Judge Boise on the year at hand not the past or your percieved bias. Why isnt everyone calling Boise to go there? I am positive people dont want to go play them there.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 3:31 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
To get this thread back on track... 
...and sum up my feelings:
I'm behind the Boise States of the world...BSU, UU, CSUF, etc...because I hate the BCS and those schools represent every thing that's wrong with it.
I've made no secret of my desire for FCS-style playoffs for the BCS schools. It's a fairer way to determine the champion, it would make more money for the schools involved, and it would be more exciting for the fans.
Win, win, win.
...and sum up my feelings: I'm behind the Boise States of the world...BSU, UU, CSUF, etc...because I hate the BCS and those schools represent every thing that's wrong with it.
I've made no secret of my desire for FCS-style playoffs for the BCS schools. It's a fairer way to determine the champion, it would make more money for the schools involved, and it would be more exciting for the fans.
Win, win, win.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 3:33 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
A playoff is not a fair way to determine a championship actually.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 3:50 pm to sms151t
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If you look how Florida St started the rise into "mainstream" it is EXACTLY the way that Boise did it. Playing weak teams and in Tallahassee
Just the opposite actually...they made their bones beating the big boys and often on the road...from the beginning of the Bowden years and before FSU joined the ACC, here's a sampling of the people they beat on the road...
Nebraska
LSU (played at LSU 5 straight years, winning 4)
Ohio St
Notre Dame
Arizona St
Michigan
Auburn
South Carolina
VT
Oklahoma St
Many of those games came with no return trip. And keep in mind UF and Miami were on the schedule every year.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 5:02 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
When Bowden got there in the mid 70's FSU played at home a lot. Miami and Florida were terrible then, in fact Miami was trying to drop the program and Florida hadnt won in years.
When Sloan recruited Wayne Peace, early 80's was when UF started going, and then they were put on Probation for it, then Galen Hall got them in trouble again, which led to Gary Darnell for a year at UF, then Spurrier.
Bowdens teams in West Virginia were a lot better than his early FSU teams. The biggest break for FSU was playing OU twice in Orange Bowl, JC Watts won a MVP of the first game. I think Danny Bradley was QB of OU for second one.
When Sloan recruited Wayne Peace, early 80's was when UF started going, and then they were put on Probation for it, then Galen Hall got them in trouble again, which led to Gary Darnell for a year at UF, then Spurrier.
Bowdens teams in West Virginia were a lot better than his early FSU teams. The biggest break for FSU was playing OU twice in Orange Bowl, JC Watts won a MVP of the first game. I think Danny Bradley was QB of OU for second one.
This post was edited on 8/8/10 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 8/8/10 at 5:07 pm to sms151t
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just because they arent in an "elite" conference does not matter.
it matters when they refuse to schedule OOC games worth a shite
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the 2:1 for Boise is a losing deal
they're not a program who can refuse 2:1 deals if they want to schedule big teams
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, it should be 1:1.
they're not that level of program
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But then again that game doesnt matter to you, but the fact is they have beaten Oregon, Oregon St., OU, TCU,
if they did this in one season, i'd be impressed
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and others people just remember the bad game Zambranski had at UGA.
as opposed to judging them based on 1 game against a so-so OU squad?
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I am positive people dont want to go play them there.
well we know Nebraska was willing to go play them there, but BSU turned that down
Posted on 8/8/10 at 5:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
NU wanted a 2:1 not a 1:1 Boise doesnt need NU. Thats the problem you arent getting, if NU offered 1:1 then it would be different. Right now people just need to try to schedule Boise 1:1 like Oregon and Oregon St did and make them shut up. Until then nobody has a complaint, not even LSU.
Put yourself into Boise's shoes, they feel like they can dictate where or when they play, and actually they can. The media will eventually force someone to go play out there on a 1:1.
They actually forced the MWC hand when everyone thought that PAC 10 was going to 16.
Put yourself into Boise's shoes, they feel like they can dictate where or when they play, and actually they can. The media will eventually force someone to go play out there on a 1:1.
They actually forced the MWC hand when everyone thought that PAC 10 was going to 16.
This post was edited on 8/8/10 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 8/8/10 at 5:16 pm to sms151t
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When Bowden got there in the mid 70's FSU played at home a lot. Miami and Florida were terrible then, in fact Miami was trying to drop the program and Florida hadnt won in years.
Well, admittedly at the beginning, they weren't what they are now, but by the mid 80s, Miami was awesome and Fla was much improved. But I just threw those in there for good measure. Main point was, in general, they scheduled tough all the way from 76-91.
On the flip side, they could do it because they were indy, which at the time was feasible. But for a few exceptions, doing that now is impossible financially, which is why Boise would have a hard time going down that road.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 5:23 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
Obi the biggest break for FSU nationally wasnt even the Orange Bowls it was a trick play, now I think of it. They came out in all white (Burt Reynolds bought the pants) and ran a fake punt at Clemson that highlight put them on everyones newscast and then from there they became "the team" to watch because of the stuff they did. Also Chief Osceola and Renegade being shown on ESPN opening helped a lot. But their McManus teams were boring to watch, but freaking good.
This post was edited on 8/8/10 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 8/8/10 at 5:28 pm to sms151t
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the biggest break for FSU nationally wasnt even the Orange Bowls it was a trick play, now I think of it. They came out in all white (Burt Reynolds bought the pants) and ran a fake punt at Clemson that highlight put them on everyones newscast and then from there they became "the team" to watch because of the stuff they did
an awesome play...not only a fake punt, but inside their own 20, tied, very late in the game...LeRoy Butler.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 5:34 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
Great play actually, but at the time they were regional team just starting to get noticed. The same can be said about Boise right now.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 6:19 pm to sms151t
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it should be 1:1. Boise is in position to turn that down
Boise and the side show of a stadium are in no position for a 1:1
Posted on 8/8/10 at 6:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's probably been mentioned already in this thread, but Boise State is awful against BCS conference teams in the regular season since 1999 except against Oregon and Oregon State. (Both who should go off themselves for it.)
1999 (10-3)
@UCLA (4-7) L 38-7
2000 (10-2)
@Arkansas (6-6) L 38-31
@Washington State (4-7) L 42-35
2001 (8-4)
@South Carolina (9-3) L 32-13
Washington State (10-2) L 41-20
2002 (12-1)
@Arkansas (9-5) L 41-14
2003 (13-1)
@Oregon State (8-5) L 26-24
2004 (11-1)
Oregon State (7-5) W 30-27
2005 (9-4)
@Georgia (10-3) L 48-13
@Oregon State (5-6) L 30-27
2006 (13-0)
Oregon State (10-4) W 42-14
2007 (10-3)
@Washington (4-9) L 24-10
2008 (12-1)
@Oregon (10-3) W 37-32
2009 (14-0)
Oregon (10-3) W 19-8
1999 (10-3)
@UCLA (4-7) L 38-7
2000 (10-2)
@Arkansas (6-6) L 38-31
@Washington State (4-7) L 42-35
2001 (8-4)
@South Carolina (9-3) L 32-13
Washington State (10-2) L 41-20
2002 (12-1)
@Arkansas (9-5) L 41-14
2003 (13-1)
@Oregon State (8-5) L 26-24
2004 (11-1)
Oregon State (7-5) W 30-27
2005 (9-4)
@Georgia (10-3) L 48-13
@Oregon State (5-6) L 30-27
2006 (13-0)
Oregon State (10-4) W 42-14
2007 (10-3)
@Washington (4-9) L 24-10
2008 (12-1)
@Oregon (10-3) W 37-32
2009 (14-0)
Oregon (10-3) W 19-8
Posted on 8/8/10 at 6:40 pm to The Boat
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2007 (10-3)
@Washington (4-9) L 24-10
Posted on 8/8/10 at 6:40 pm to The Boat
The win over Oklahoma was a great win for the players but in no way means anything to the landscape of college football. Oklahoma was not prepared and thought they would walk all over Boise. Even great teams can't walk over decent teams if not prepared.
Same with bama and Utah. Utah wasn't better they just showed up.
No reason to crown a mid level team the champion for winning 1 or 2 big games a year.
Excellent stats SFp.
Same with bama and Utah. Utah wasn't better they just showed up.
No reason to crown a mid level team the champion for winning 1 or 2 big games a year.
Excellent stats SFp.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 6:50 pm to The Eric
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Same with bama and Utah. Utah wasn't better they just showed up.
the Bama-Utah game was a lot different than the Boise-OU game. Utah was blowing Bama off the ball on both lines and that Utah team was pretty stacked with NFL talent. It was hardly a fluky win
Posted on 8/8/10 at 7:01 pm to sms151t
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Why isnt everyone calling Boise to go there? I am positive people dont want to go play them there.
People aren't calling them to play there because BCS teams like to make money. LSU would lose a shitton of money going to Boise to play
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