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re: Boise State's Bowl Record since 2004
Posted on 8/7/10 at 8:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 8/7/10 at 8:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
When. Not if.
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 8:39 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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When. Not if.
maybe, maybe not, but not anytime before 2015. Why do you keep bring that up, do you think I care, like I'll see it as a defeat or something? I have no stake, just a preference. I watch the NBA playoffs, celebrated wildly when the Rockets won back to back title even though I think 16 teams in the playoff is a joke, especially when there were only 27 teams in the league. I've always been a critic of conference championship game, 2001 is the exact reason why, didn't stop me from watching the game and root for LSU and going crazy that we won.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 8:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
I'm at the point I don't care when so much as I do if. I just think it's ludicrous for anyone to pretend that the BCS benefits CFB as a whole.
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 9:13 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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just think it's ludicrous for anyone to pretend that the BCS benefits CFB as a whole.
clearly it does benefit BCS conferences, other wise they would start a playoff.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 9:27 pm to H-Town Tiger
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clearly it does benefit BCS conferences, other wise they would start a playoff.
The BCS as it is came about because people were fed up with the old bowl system and the polls that determined the champions.
The system we have is just a stop-gap, not a permanent solution.
Some people realize this, some don't.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 11:17 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
This will be the 13th year of the BCS, before that was the Bowl Alliance which existed for 3 years, 16 years is awfully long for a "stop gap".
Another thing people don't realize is that before the 80's and Miami, the emphasis was not as much on winning the National Championship as it is in today's sports culture. People did not talk as much about a playoff as just having the #1 and #2 teams play, which is what we got.
Since want to believe that the only reason there is no playoff is because people are resistant to change, I see why you think its inevitable. And while fans on message boards ay overwhelming support a playoff, the university Presidents and AD's overwhelming support the current system. It will not change until they think a playoff is better and that seems unlikely for the foreseeable future. At best a 4 team playoff, which would be the ideal.
Another thing people don't realize is that before the 80's and Miami, the emphasis was not as much on winning the National Championship as it is in today's sports culture. People did not talk as much about a playoff as just having the #1 and #2 teams play, which is what we got.
Since want to believe that the only reason there is no playoff is because people are resistant to change, I see why you think its inevitable. And while fans on message boards ay overwhelming support a playoff, the university Presidents and AD's overwhelming support the current system. It will not change until they think a playoff is better and that seems unlikely for the foreseeable future. At best a 4 team playoff, which would be the ideal.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 11:46 pm to H-Town Tiger
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At best a 4 team playoff, which would be the ideal.
I think if FBS changes to a playoff scenario, it'll be 8 with 6 BCS champs + 2 at large, with one of those being a nonBCS.
Sadly for Boise State fans, they wouldn't have been included in last year either. Also, it doesn't answer questions from many of the years where there was "controversy."
The problem with comparing FCS to any other sport is that there is a HUGE discrepancy between the haves and the have nots. This isn't as big in any other sport, which is why having playoff spots dependent on conference champs doesn't greatly hinder any one conference (not to mention the fact that more than HALF of the teams in basketball will be at-larges next year)
Posted on 8/8/10 at 12:04 am to H-Town Tiger
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This will be the 13th year of the BCS, before that was the Bowl Alliance which existed for 3 years, 16 years is awfully long for a "stop gap".
Not at all, compared to how long we used the bowl/poll system.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 12:36 am to The Easter Bunny
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The problem with comparing FCS to any other sport is that there is a HUGE discrepancy between the haves and the have nots.
and the true "haves" are about 10-15 teams, and in any given year 3-5 of them will be down
Posted on 8/8/10 at 12:39 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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Winning a game when everything is on the line >>>> regular season game.
There's no difference between the two under the BCS.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 6:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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and the true "haves" are about 10-15 teams
No, the true "haves" are the BCS teams, and going to a FCS-type playoffs wouldn't change that.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 6:38 am to Buckeye Fan 19
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There's no difference between the two under the BCS.
Except I watched the 2007 BCS title game between LSU and tOSU. And LSU came out completely flat or the first ten minutes due to nerves.
Playing for all the marbles is very different. And FCS teams have to play more than one win or go home game to win it all.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 11:00 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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flat or the first ten minutes due to nerves.
Like you know this. You are just making shite up to fit your narrative
Posted on 8/8/10 at 1:53 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Like you know this. You are just making shite up to fit your narrative
Can you prove I'm wrong? I didn't think so.
Again, playing for all the marbles is very different. And FCS teams have to play more than one win or go home game to win it all.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 2:06 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Knowing SFP started this thread he is on the anti-BSU warpath again.
IF Boise wasnt a worthy opponent Tech wouldnt play them.
If you look how Florida St started the rise into "mainstream" it is EXACTLY the way that Boise did it. Playing weak teams and in Tallahassee. They used "trick plays" and after 15 years they started to join a bigger conference. People forget that Boise was in 1-AA less than 20 years ago and have done everything theyve been asked to do. They should not have to go play someone in a 1 and done game to satisfy a LSU website, the people that matters ranked them that high, they have won the 2 biggest games they've played in, both times as the underdog. Boise is going to be around for a time, just get used to it. IF LSU, Alabama, etc want to knock them off play them at Boise or Neutral sight. Until then, people dont have any reason to bitch.
Basically people need to play them to shut them up.
IF Boise wasnt a worthy opponent Tech wouldnt play them.
If you look how Florida St started the rise into "mainstream" it is EXACTLY the way that Boise did it. Playing weak teams and in Tallahassee. They used "trick plays" and after 15 years they started to join a bigger conference. People forget that Boise was in 1-AA less than 20 years ago and have done everything theyve been asked to do. They should not have to go play someone in a 1 and done game to satisfy a LSU website, the people that matters ranked them that high, they have won the 2 biggest games they've played in, both times as the underdog. Boise is going to be around for a time, just get used to it. IF LSU, Alabama, etc want to knock them off play them at Boise or Neutral sight. Until then, people dont have any reason to bitch.
Basically people need to play them to shut them up.
This post was edited on 8/8/10 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 8/8/10 at 2:19 pm to sms151t
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IF LSU, Alabama, etc want to knock them off play them at Boise or Neutral sight. Until then, people dont have any reason to bitch.
People bitch that Boise can play 2 BCS teams, an FCS team, and some horrible FBS team as their OOC and complain they aren't in the top 2 at the end of the season
Posted on 8/8/10 at 2:21 pm to sms151t
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Basically people need to play them to shut them up.
Spot on IMO!
Posted on 8/8/10 at 2:22 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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Can you prove I'm wrong?
you can't prove you are right, just because A happens and then B happens, does not mean A caused B.
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playing for all the marbles is very different.
no its really not.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 2:30 pm to H-Town Tiger
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you can't prove you are right, just because A happens and then B happens, does not mean A caused B.
The difference is, I'm not saying anyone's wrong without being able to back it up.
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playing for all the marbles is very different.
no its really not.
I see. It's ok for you to say something like this, but not me.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 2:50 pm to sms151t
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and have done everything theyve been asked to do.
except dodge tough OOC games, mainly on the road, since the massacre in Athens in 2005
frick, they even schedule 1AA teams
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They should not have to go play someone in a 1 and done game to satisfy a LSU website
it's about giving them a shot at the title and making a real name for themselves
many BCS programs play "one and done" games. yet BSU thinks its too good for them?
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the people that matters ranked them that high
stupid sportswriters pushing this story on the stupid american public, who loves BSU when they should hate them
and this is the first year they've gotten love like this in the preseason. that's why it is such a big deal right now
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they have won the 2 biggest games they've played in
ahahaa what?
this is all relative. they could have won the WAC in 2007 had they beaten hawaii, and they failed, for example
they could have beaten and SEC opponent on the road in 2005, and they failed (this would have been more legitimate than any other game in their run from 2004 onward)
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Boise is going to be around for a time
moving to the MWC will affect them, but sadly the true "best non-BCS program" left the conference, so BSU gets to dodge, yet again, tough competition
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IF LSU, Alabama, etc want to knock them off play them at Boise or Neutral sight.
LSU, Alabama, etc matter in the big picture
BSU does not
BSU is a non-revenue generating leach who only has perceived power due to beating a so-so OU team with a WR playing QB and a non-100% AD while getting blown by the national media creating a story where there isn't one
BSU refuses to play multiple BCS games on the road every year, and rarely schedules 2 BCS opponents. they also schedule 1AA opponents to further liquify their already horrible SOS
frick BSU
they represent everything america is against (taking the easy road and expecting to be given things that aren't earned)
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