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re: Bob Costas Slams CBS master coverage
Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:58 pm to Hat Tricks
Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:58 pm to Hat Tricks
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I guess I missed somebody bringing up legitimate social issues in this thread.
and that right there is the problem because you probably honestly believe this
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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because you probably honestly believe this
i believe it
i don't give a shite about the membership of a private club. why do you think that's a legitimate social issue?
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Has Augusta ever said: "we won't admit blacks or women, or black women?"
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think the privacy is the real issue here. Why people have a hard on for the privacy of this one club...I don't know.
What exactly do people want Augusta National to do or say? Do they even know? Do they want anything at all or do they just want to bring up the past and drag their name through the mud simply for the sake of doing so?
What exactly do people want Augusta National to do or say? Do they even know? Do they want anything at all or do they just want to bring up the past and drag their name through the mud simply for the sake of doing so?
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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and that right there is the problem because you probably honestly believe this
I absolutely believe it. I don't see why anybody should concern themselves with who a PRIVATE ORGANIZATION chooses to have or not have as members. Why do you care?
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i believe it
i don't give a shite about the membership of a private club. why do you think that's a legitimate social issue?
Wow, I actually agree with SFP for once.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:01 pm to TigerStripes06
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Why people have a hard on for the privacy of this one club...I don't know.
well i mean the masters isn't exactly some little tournament. that is the answer to your question
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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how is a private club's membership a legitimate social issue?
I don't know. Why don't we ask the entire Civil Rights movement of the 1960s? "It's a private establishment, we're allowed to discriminate" was the essential argument of those who denied service to entire group of people based on nothing but skin color. That's a staggeringly poor question that is completely ignorant of history that I know you're aware of, since you went to law school and read the cases. You absolutely know the legitimate state issue.
Anyway, I would hate it if an announcer brought it up on a broadcast this year, as it would be apropos of nothing. But when there were protests going on during the tournament, it did strike me as silly to not even mention it was going on.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:02 pm to TigerStripes06
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I think the privacy is the real issue here. Why people have a hard on for the privacy of this one club...I don't know.
If you open your doors up to the world this comes with the territory
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What exactly do people want Augusta National to do or say? Do they even know? Do they want anything at all or do they just want to bring up the past and drag their name through the mud simply for the sake of doing so?
At this point I don't think anyone wants them to do anything. All Costas said he would have done is mention that these things have been issues, that's all.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
Agree with sfp, but I have no problem with costas saying what he did. If you don't like him, don't listen to his coverage. Pretty simple.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:03 pm to Golfer
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Has Augusta ever said: "we won't admit blacks or women, or black women?"
through their actions, yes
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:04 pm to TheOcean
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Agree with sfp, but I have no problem with costas saying what he did. If you don't like him, don't listen to his coverage. Pretty simple.
Wouldn't it be as equally simple for Costas and others who don't like Augusta to not watch The Masters?
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:05 pm to Baloo
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"It's a private establishment, we're allowed to discriminate" was the essential argument of those who denied service to entire group of people based on nothing but skin color. T
and i don't think that they are wrong, and i think that provision of federal law is bad law infringing on the property rights of individuals
the main reason for the civil rights act was to combat state-based, racial discrimination, which was a wonderful thing
but this is a non-issue, as the CRA doesn't apply to private clubs and never has.
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That's a staggeringly poor question that is completely ignorant of history that I know you're aware of, since you went to law school and read the cases.
it horrible logic made out of emotion and not rationality. the civil rights cases that dealt with private property completely fricked up our federal system of government and gave the the feds unlimited power, essentially
but, again...that has nothing to do with Augusta, which is a private club. i know you read THAT case
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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through their actions, yes
By having blacks, women, and black women as members?
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:06 pm to Hat Tricks
I think I'm going to start a protest with BET and ask them why they never play any rock music videos, only black people videos. RACIST MOTHER frickERS!
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:06 pm to TheOcean
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I have no problem with costas saying what he did.
he can say/believe what he wants. i just think he's above this sort of commentary as a journalist. he's in the rarified air above this kind of discussion
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:07 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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through their actions, yes
have you ever said you won't marry a black woman?
have you ever married a black woman? if not, by your history, you're saying this
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i just think he's above this sort of commentary as a journalist
Costas probably feels that kind of commentary is his job
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:08 pm to TigerStripes06
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What exactly do people want Augusta National to do or say? Do they even know? Do they want anything at all or do they just want to bring up the past and drag their name through the mud simply for the sake of doing so?
It seems that a lot of these people pissed at Augusta National would rather they continue to be "racist, sexist, etc." just so that they have the "standing" to continue to bitch and moan at an very elite golf club.
ANGC can't win when all the whiners like Costas keep moving the goalposts from "You need to admit women" to "You didn't do it soon enough."
frick Costas.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Costas probably feels that kind of commentary is his job
as a great sports play by play man?
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