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re: Bengals first round pick DE Shemar Stewart continues to sit out of training camp

Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
1909 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:16 pm to
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None of this matters for his situation. This is the contract they have for you.


Apparently it does matter, because he addressed that and hasn't signed. Honestly, he's seems pretty content to just wait till he gets what he wants while Bungles ownership tapdances on coals.

Ok, now your move.
Posted by grich31
Youngsville, La
Member since May 2008
1998 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:32 pm to
Seems like they don’t like their 1st rd pick they drafted, weird
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65383 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:46 pm to
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Seems like they don’t like their 1st rd pick they drafted, weird


I'm tempted to say this is a baseball deal to avoid paying more money right now. The owner is likely tapped out after Burrow, Higgins, and Chase.
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Borntoboogy
Member since Jan 2023
1066 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:59 pm to
He was over drafted. Production was not there.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126623 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 7:14 pm to
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I guess they may be worried he’ll have character issues and didn’t want to be on the hook for a ton of money.


Then why draft him in the first place
Posted by Borntoboogy
Member since Jan 2023
1066 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 7:18 pm to
That's what I was saying.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30675 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 7:21 pm to
Bengals deserve this

shitty owners are shitty owners. I mean it wasnt 2 long ago, they made players fix their ripped jerseys with shoe strings and thread, because they gave them 1 home and 1 road jersey, for 16 games.
Posted by Asleepinthecove
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2023
1983 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:29 pm to
I am not familiar with the contract issues and the bengals may be the bad guy here but It was a disappointing draft pick by all of the sports pundits the day of the draft. It’s no surprise the Bengals are having to deal with this issue. They never should have drafted him. He was the wrong pick. He had an underwhelming 3 years while at A&M. He should be happy he was drafted where he was.
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 8:34 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:31 pm to
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Ok, now your move.

Cool. Don’t play or get paid lol
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3140 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:44 pm to
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Cool. Don’t play or get paid lol

The Bengals aren’t going to throw that first round pick in the trash can over one sentence in a contract. Just stahp.
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
1909 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:48 pm to
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Cool. Don’t play or get paid lol


The longer this goes with the Bungles and Stewart/Hendrickson, the more it becomes a serious issue with future drafts AND paying veteran players. Start getting hold-outs and lack of free agency interest from veterans....and suddenly Cincy has a very big issue.

There's probably 31 other teams that would give this guy a shot, if a trade appears to be the only way out. Damn sure going to be 31 other teams ready to get Hendrickson.

So, you're a fan of a team that won't pay rookies, won't pay Pro Bowl veterans and you have an EMPTY trophy case after a long history in the league?

Good luck with your approach. Cuz it's gonna suck (to continue) to suck.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:14 pm to
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So, you're a fan of a team that won't pay rookies, won't pay Pro Bowl veterans and you have an EMPTY trophy case after a long history in the league?

Wut lol
Posted by BogeyTX
Member since Apr 2018
983 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:13 pm to
They literally did what Burrow asked them to do. They signed him, Chase and Higgins to a deal. Them three take up 44 percent of the cap lol. I’m sorry that yall are finding out that Burrow isn’t some Louisiana football god like yall want him to be.

Posted by dukeg7213
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2023
6104 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:37 pm to
His agent is doing what any good agent would do. WTF kind of language is that? It’s not about not have the money to pay him, it’s a loose definition of if you don’t produce then we can make up bullshite to release you and not have to pay you. No one would ever sign that shite.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53800 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 11:07 pm to
Does this help MahomeBaw towards another Super Bowl?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20793 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:58 am to
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He should, though I don't know how he goes about doing it now that he signed that 5 year deal. I'm not familiar enough with franchise tags and whatnot in the NFL,

If he wanted out, he could have become a FA in 2029 if Cincy drug it out. He would have to play out his original 4 year contract, Cincy would have picked up his 5th year option ($29.5M fully guaranteed).

I am not 100% sure how the value of the franchise tags work, but I believe the 1st 2 years are 120% of prior year's contract ($35.4M in 2026, $42.5M in 2027), then 144% of prior year's contract for the 3rd ($61.2M in 2028). I am also certain the tags are 100% fully guaranteed the year they are executed
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40793 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:28 am to
Still kind of boggles my mind they basically chose giving Higgins WR1 money over paying Hendrickson.
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
23909 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:43 am to
If this language is uncommon or it's never been put in a contract before, the Bungles should have told the player this before they drafted and allow him the opportunity to "opt out" of being drafted at that spot.

I can understand such language if the player has had some off the field incidents while in college or high school. But, this is something that the team and player should be required to agree to before the player is drafted.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9930 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:43 am to
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There's a dispute over contract language


There is a war going on within the franchise between the players (leaders) on the team and the front office. The contracts are the battleground. The Bengals are NOTORIOUSLY stingy when it comes to contracts and simple negotiations.

This kid is asking for language that is common for rookies (the Bengals are literally the ONLY team in the league who do not insert this language into contracts for rookies). The language he wants protects him from losing moneys that are supposed to be guaranteed to injury, or anything else that the team thinks they can label a "default" by technicality.

They came out of pocket and paid Joe because they knew he would move on if they didn't, and he has brought the team ridiculous ticket and merch sales revenue.

What really ignited the war, however, was when Joe spoke on four players that he said need to be signed to new extensions at or above their market value (Chase, Higgins, Hendrickson, and Gesicki). When Joe said that, it was clear that he was making the suggestion that if the team didn't support him by paying players to keep them and stay in SB contention, he was going to open his mind to moving on.

You'd think that his language along with the negotiation processes that Tee and Jamar went through before contracts were signed by them and Gesicki would have given the Front Office some insight on how to proceed moving forward with contracts for big time players. Instead, they still haven't signed probably the second most necessary player to their next 2-3 years' success: Trey Hendrickson.

The locker room is standing behind their guys and trying to change that money-grubbing culture into one that spends and wins while not breaking the bank. Record ticket sales and merch are pouring in, but the Front Office still can't un-arse a bit of money, nor add in a simple clause that likely would only save them maybe $1M or so in the long run.

That's a lot of money for us, but not for a franchise enjoying the most success they have seen almost ever (with the high hopes of a potential Super Bowl).

The ball is FIRMLY in the FO's court, and they are fumbling big time.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64607 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:48 am to
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They literally did what Burrow asked them to do. They signed him, Chase and Higgins to a deal.


Burrow said Hendrickson needs to be paid by the Bengals. Why did you leave that out?

They haven’t done what Burrow asked.
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