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re: ATL Thread | offseason hot takes + discussion

Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:08 am to
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:08 am to
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I'm sure this is a dumb question but if Ozzie is back to his normal self, could he potentially move to SS and let Grissom stay at 2nd? I have no idea what Ozzie's ability is like at that position but I'm assuming it's not great since I've heard no mention of the possibility.


I think arm strength is the biggest problem for Ozzie at short. Plenty of range, but would struggle to get long throws across in time. I'm not sure he would actually be worse than Grissom, though, given Vaughn's lack of range, but I think the main reason none of us talk about Ozzie moving to short is because we never hear the Braves even mention the possibility.
Posted by Jeaux Cool
Frisco via NELA
Member since Sep 2015
1751 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:12 am to
I'm just ready for Dansby to make a decision so we can move on one way or another.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81292 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:37 am to
Adrianza signed to a minor league deal, but will only make $1m if he makes the MLB roster, which means he'll likely make the MLB roster.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:10 pm to
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Sure have. And Dansby has been decent but he sure isn’t the reason we won the World Series. He’s an above average shortstop. He stunk in the playoffs the last 2 years. Sure, he had a couple of jacks in 2021 but when you get at bats most players will have a game or two. Grissom, if given everyday at bats, will also have solid stats. Dansby is easily replaceable. Sorry so many of you will miss the flowing hair, but just look at reality. He’s a streaky hitter with solid defense. And he sure wasn’t streaky this post season or in 2021. He was a hole and Rosario,Pederson , and Soler filled that hole.

Jesus Christ.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48410 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:28 pm to
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How much is beintidi wanting? He would be a good fit.


He just got 5/$75M from the White Sox. Holy shite. That's wayyyyy more than I thought he was worth.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 3:30 pm
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
3386 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 5:23 pm to
Dansby got married last weekend and is currently on his honeymoon.

He said in that local ATL radio interview that he would worry about his free agency AFTER getting married and the honeymoon.

So I expect he may take a lot longer that we think.

Next week is Christmas week then the new year.... he may not sign until early January.

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 5:31 pm to
He also lost his grandad on Sunday, the day after his wedding.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81292 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 5:42 pm to
We just got Hoy Park (asian-version of Adrianza) for cash or a PTBNL in a trade with the Red Sox.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 6:36 pm to
You Dansby fanboys are something else. Dansby sucked in the playoffs more than he didn’t. And the Braves will win more games next year without him than with him last year.

As for him being this so called “winner”, please. He went to the premier baseball college and then the Braves. No kidding he’s won a lot of games. He’s had a silver spoon in his mouth since high school. I cant wait until he signs with a team where he isn’t surrounded by studs. Then let’s see what he does. Whoever signs him will regret it by June let alone in years from now.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
54445 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 6:41 pm to
I don’t agree, but I hope you’re right.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 7:06 pm to
Jesus.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6290 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:00 pm to
While it would be great to see Swanson return, I’d rather see the $20-25 million used on 3-4 players…Andrus and Conforto. Or maybe Matt Carpenter. Heck, bring Craig Kimbrel back.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81292 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Dansby sucked in the playoffs more than he didn’t. And the Braves will win more games next year without him than with him last year.


So why do you think Grissom is a better SS than Swanson?
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:22 pm to
AA spoke briefly at a big $ charity event that my brother in law was able to attend. No phones, everything was supposed to be off the record, etc. Nothing groundbreaking and nothing really about specific players but they had a short Q&A apparently and AA was asked some philosophical questions.

He mentioned that when he arrived he went several years without trading any top notch prospects. Indicated several reasons for that. 1. Wanted to get to know the system. 2. Didn’t think big league club was close enough to WS to subtract future core guys in trades. Mentioned those 19-22 year olds who could be future all stars are most valuable currency when building even if only small portion become that. Risk of trading wrong guy not worth it unless you’re knocking right on door of title. 3. And most interestingly he said when you have an elite farm like what he was lucky enough to inherit it makes getting proper value in trades very tough. Mentioned that Austin Riley was ranked by some as their 9th-10th best prospect behind Acuña, Albies, Fried, Soroka, etc. and he was being comped in trade discussions to other teams 9th best prospect who may have been a future AAAA guy and wouldn’t even crack their top 30. Mentioned that a team (I assume Marlins/Realmuto) was asking for Albies, Anderson, Riley for a star player and they ended up trading to another org for similar ranked players within that org but for Braves it would have been more like their 4th, 10th and 20th guys.

Also mentioned that with their window wide open and farm needing a lot of help that they can squeeze a lot more value out of their “#1 guy” in some discussions even if he is equal to what might have been their 14th guy when he got there. Replenishing the farm will be done through international market and draft and when next wave arrives they will treat it as they always have and give those guys a chance at big league level but for now in many instances using player development to supplement big league roster through trades is going to be better use. Makes me think they may not be done dealing guys even if it means totally wiping out Shuster/Shewmake etc.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81292 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:37 pm to
If we could dupe someone into giving us anything of worth for Shewmake, we need to do it. His bat does not play in MLB.

So hopefully, if teams are viewing our 9th best prospect as other #9 prospects when our farm was stacked, they’ll view our top prospects as other top prospects when our farm Is barren
Posted by Dawgfan247
Member since Jan 2021
1900 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:22 pm to
Dansby finalizing deal to the cubs
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24964 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:25 pm to
Better than to the Dodgers.

Go Grissom!!
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 3:30 pm
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
Member since Jan 2008
108128 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:30 pm to
7 for 177
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81292 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

pussy rules all, my friend



Told y'all
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
41359 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:38 pm to
As soon as AA said Ron reached out to him to say grissom looked great I knew they were trying to spin it and knew he wasn’t coming back
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