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re: ATL Thread | offseason hot takes + discussion
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:40 pm to lsu31always
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:40 pm to lsu31always
Higher AAV than any player in Braves history. Braves probably weren’t even in the neighborhood.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:42 pm to volfan30
I hate to see him go, but I’m glad this is over. Time to move forward and make some moves to improve the team.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:43 pm to auzach91
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As soon as AA said Ron reached out to him to say grissom looked great I knew they were trying to spin it and knew he wasn’t coming back
Yep.
It's going to be an adventure at short this season. Dansby infuriated me at the plate more times than not, but I knew pretty much every ball hit in his direction was an out.
If we could merge Grissom's bat with Shewmake's glove, we'd be onto something.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:43 pm to Broski
I’ve never said Grissom is a better shortstop than Dansby. That’s ridiculous today. Maybe in 4 years. What I have been saying is the difference in cost between what Dansby will give and whoever we have at shortstop isn’t worth 25 million. And then y’all turned it into I think Dansby isn’t a solid player. He is a solid player but he isn’t the reason the Braves won the World Series or his Vanderbilt teams were great. He’s a solid producer but he isn’t worth 25 million especially when we have a guy like Grissom who is a pretty ok player who could mature like Dansby did.
Now that he’s a Cub let’s see how all this winner talk looks like come August. I have no problem with him taking the money, but he is now that athlete who chose money over winning and the crowd won’t be kind to him when he doesn’t produce at a 25 million clip. Meanwhile, the Braves will keep rolling because baseball is a pitchers game not a 20 HR shortstop game.
Now that he’s a Cub let’s see how all this winner talk looks like come August. I have no problem with him taking the money, but he is now that athlete who chose money over winning and the crowd won’t be kind to him when he doesn’t produce at a 25 million clip. Meanwhile, the Braves will keep rolling because baseball is a pitchers game not a 20 HR shortstop game.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:46 pm to RunningJacket
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I’ve never said Grissom is a better shortstop than Dansby.
You said this team would win more games this year without Dansby than they won with him last season.
So with Dansby no longer option and you saying Grissom isn't better than Dansby, what move do you think not signing Dansby just freed up that will make us a better team than last year?
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:58 pm to Broski
I’ve never said anything about making moves. I simply said the Braves will win more games this coming season than last season. If you want to know why heres my reasoning - they underperformed across the board. Dansby had a big year for his standards but cumulatively Acuna was a shell, Álbies missed major time, Olson was in a NL learning curve, and we got absolutely zero from left field and DH. Acuna and Álbies will have better years, if healthy. Olson is Olson. Riley is Riley. Harris is Harris. SS is iffy but Grissom showed life. There is no way our left field production is that bad again. Rosario and Ozuna both had their worst years. They may still stink but they won’t stink that bad. Then with Murphy/Travis we have a catcher and DH similar to what we had last year with the two catchers. Our bullpen is much improved and our starters are our strength and Anderson won’t be as bad and Soroka could be back.
Bottom line we won the division with a very flawed team that was saved by Wright, Strider, and Harris coming out of nowhere. And even if our hitters all have down years our pitching staff is the best in the NL and pitching is what wins regular seasons. Then the playoffs are simply who gets hot.
Bottom line we won the division with a very flawed team that was saved by Wright, Strider, and Harris coming out of nowhere. And even if our hitters all have down years our pitching staff is the best in the NL and pitching is what wins regular seasons. Then the playoffs are simply who gets hot.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:59 pm to RunningJacket
Ah, the ol' everyone will have career years and not get injured philosophy.
Something that has never happened in the history of pro sports.
Something that has never happened in the history of pro sports.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:12 pm to Broski
You don’t need a career year to be better than what we got out of LF and Acuna last year. But I guess you believe everything will be the same from year to year. That’s fine. We’ll all watch it play out. But I can confidently say that Acuna will put up better numbers and we’ll get more production from LF. But you keep waiting for us to trade for Ohtani or something to ease your mind. I’ll just sit back and watch us win the East as built.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:19 pm to RunningJacket
Ok champ, I hope you’re right.
I also hope you learn better reading comprehension skills as the season goes.
I also hope you learn better reading comprehension skills as the season goes.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:31 pm to Broski
Would have liked him to haves stayed. I am not shook about him leaving.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:35 pm to lsu31always
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7 for 177
Holy shite
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:41 pm to RunningJacket
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Ohtani
Mets lock.
Though he would be a nice one to replace Fried.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:49 pm to Broski
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So with Dansby no longer option and you saying Grissom isn't better than Dansby, what move do you think not signing Dansby just freed up that will make us a better team than last year?
Not my question but I’ll answer anyway.
That 25 million can go towards a solid everyday LF and a strong DH.
D’Arnaud could be the catcher every 4th game and be the go to choice in pinch hitting situations.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:58 pm to Chief Hinge
Also, SS defense became a lot more important with no shift
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:04 pm to Broski
Mark Bowman doesn’t know why so many people assume Grissom will be the starter. Well, Mark, maybe because there aren’t any other decent FA SSs left and they don’t have the farm for a trade.
AA may very well be able to pull a rabbit out of the hat but at this point it’s not some far fetched idea that Grissom will be the opening day shortstop.
AA may very well be able to pull a rabbit out of the hat but at this point it’s not some far fetched idea that Grissom will be the opening day shortstop.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:11 pm to Chief Hinge
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D’Arnaud could be the catcher every 4th game and be the go to choice in pinch hitting situations.
I hope not. Maybe bias because he’s my favorite current Brave but d’Arnaud is too valuable to be relegated to 200 at bats.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:18 pm to lsu31always
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7 for 177
Yeah I'm okay w/letting him walk for that.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:21 pm to Chief Hinge
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D’Arnaud could be the catcher every 4th game
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:40 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
It just sucks because we’re going to soon be going through this with Fried. In the past, we’ve at least been able to soften the blow of a big name leaving bu making a trade or calling someone up who would immediately produce.
We don’t have that luxury anymore and it’ll be interesting to see how that’s handled by the FO in years to come. It still doesn’t make sense that we exhausted our remaining assets for a position that we were already deep at and have yet to address any of our holes.
We don’t have that luxury anymore and it’ll be interesting to see how that’s handled by the FO in years to come. It still doesn’t make sense that we exhausted our remaining assets for a position that we were already deep at and have yet to address any of our holes.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:43 pm to Dale Murphy
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Mark Bowman doesn’t know why so many people assume Grissom will be the starter. Well, Mark, maybe because there aren’t any other decent FA SSs left and they don’t have the farm for a trade. AA may very well be able to pull a rabbit out of the hat but at this point it’s not some far fetched idea that Grissom will be the opening day shortstop.
Arcia
Also, watching a Braves podcast just now and someone made a good point. Who won the World Series last year? The Astros? Who let their star SS (Correa) and OF (Springer) leave and sign deals with other teams last offseason? Oh, yeah. The Astros.
Make a 1-9 lineup with just who we have now, whatever SS, LF, or DH you pick. That lineup plays, sons. All is not lost. We’re just getting warm.
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