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re: ATL Thread | offseason hot takes + discussion
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:46 pm to Hot Carl
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:46 pm to Hot Carl
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Who won the World Series last year? The Astros? Who let their star SS (Correa) and OF (Springer) leave and sign deals with other teams last offseason? Oh, yeah. The Astros.
Because they had a stud SS waiting in the wings who ended up winning World Series MVP.
It’s not remotely the same thing
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:56 pm to Dale Murphy
My plan (I’m obviously not Snit)
C: Murphy 108, TDA 54
DH: Murphy 20ish, TDA 50ish
C: Murphy 108, TDA 54
DH: Murphy 20ish, TDA 50ish
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:57 pm to sorantable
I'm sad to see Dansby leave but if that's what it took to keep him then we made the right decision. Good on him for getting that bag though.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 6:09 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Every Brave who touched the ball on the final play of the 21 World Series is now gone.
I’m sad, but life goes on.
We will still be in the mix for a long time.
I’m sad, but life goes on.
We will still be in the mix for a long time.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:16 pm to LCLa
I blame a lot of this on Ozuna. Not saying I’d be ok paying Dansby what he got but it seems like AA is so scared to overpay for someone and them turn out to pull an Ozuna that he’s never going to sign a big FA. Like it or not, Fried is gone in 2 years. Morton will likely be gone in another year or 2. Unless Ian pulls his head out of his butt or some of the prospects pan out, we’re gonna be looking at holes in LF, DH, and the rotation. And maybe SS. It would be nice to think some of the big FAs would be in play. But it’s looking like we really gotta rely on a weak farm or AA licking up again like he did with Joc, Soler, and Eddie (for 1 season at least).
This is not a post bashing AA. Just saying it was fun looking forward to the free agents every year but now it’s meh because we know there won’t be any big signings.
This is not a post bashing AA. Just saying it was fun looking forward to the free agents every year but now it’s meh because we know there won’t be any big signings.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:25 pm to Broski
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Because they had a stud SS waiting in the wings who ended up winning World Series MVP.
You're not wrong.
But maybe Grissom can be our Pena, especially offensively. We'll see how Wash does developing him defensively, but if anyone can do it, it's that guy. He's a wizard.
I trust the Braves scouting and development people. They are some of the best in all my of sports.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:25 pm to Dale Murphy
Big signings are just that, big signings to get a fanbase excited.
They don't equal wins.
They don't equal wins.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:31 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Considering the shoft is gone, I’d gladly sacrifice offense for a better glove at short.
frick, I think I just talked myself into giving Shewmake a shot. This is Pastornicky all over again.
frick, I think I just talked myself into giving Shewmake a shot. This is Pastornicky all over again.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:34 pm to Broski
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Considering the shoft is gone, I’d gladly sacrifice offense for a better glove at short.
I agree, but like I said above, let's see how Wash does w/him from a defensive standpoint. He was raving about him last week, and Wash just doesn't throw out the platitudes. So I'm in a wait and see mode.
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This is Pastornicky all over again.
Now you're just being a drama queen.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:40 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Now you're just being a drama quee
Obvious joke was obvious, but it doesn’t surprise me that you missed it
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:45 pm to Broski
Its my bedtime and also trying to get my 7yr.old daughter in bed.. Go a little easy on me.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:46 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Wash does w/him from a defensive standpoint. He was raving about him last week,
Wash is good but that was a clear spin job by the organization. The media didn’t just decide to snoop around New Orleans to see what was going on at Wash’s house.
Also, let’s not forget in 2021 we were pretty bad defensively until we sold out on the shift, which was smart… Well now the shift is gone and we have a SS with significantly less range. It’s going to be a work in progress if we go with Grissom, maybe even takes a whole seasom before he’s fully comfortable there.
Small sample size from last season, but his one month in Mississippi playing SS, he graded out as one of the worst gloves in the Southern League. I just don’t think people realize how much we are downgrading defensively going from Swanson to Grissom if that’s we ultimately do.
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:47 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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They don't equal wins
You think Correa, Judge, etc., won’t equal wins? Ohtani, Machado next year won’t equal wins?
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:59 pm to Broski
Let’s not forget the shift is gone against us as well. I expect significantly more offense in 23. With our lineup and pitching I’m ok with that.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:16 pm to Dale Murphy
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Ohtani won't equal wins?
It hasn't for the Angels so far.
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You think Correa won't equal wins?
It didn't for the Twins.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:19 pm to Broski
I can't disagree, but like I said earlier I am in wait and see mode on his defense. We all know that he's gonna hit.
If we didn't have Wash working w/him then I would be worried.
If we didn't have Wash working w/him then I would be worried.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 10:23 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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It hasn't for the Angels so far.
You think the Angels would have just as many wins last year without Ohtani? Really?
You think the Yankees would have had as many wins last year without Judge?
Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:25 am to Dale Murphy
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You think the Angels would have just as many wins last year without Ohtani? Really?
You think the Yankees would have had as many wins last year without Judge?
When it comes to the former, maybe 5. But the Angels are such a poorly built team that it ultimately doesn't matter.
The Yankees are a much better built team so Judge's impact/presence isn't as needed if you get what I'm saying. But he had his share of game-winners or had a hand in winning games.
Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:43 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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7 for 177 Yeah I'm okay w/letting him walk for that.
Weren’t you saying all season that we would re-sign him and that the Braves had all this money laying around that we just haven’t decided to use yet for some reason
What’s becoming obvious to me is that the Braves were in situations with the young guys where we get them on cheap deals early or we let them walk as free agents because Liberty Media wont ok a huge contract.
Also the whole “big free agents aren’t worth it” convo is just ridiculous. Payroll is one of the leading indicators of performance. teams like the Rays aren’t the trend, they buck the trend, and they also don’t have a WS to show for it so far.
Posted on 12/18/22 at 2:17 pm to TrussvilleTide
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Liberty Media wont ok a huge contract.
By law, they aren't allowed to inject extra cash into the Braves that the team doesn't earn themselves.
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Also the whole “big free agents aren’t worth it” convo is just ridiculous.
Not really. How many of those Boras contracts have worked out for the team? How did the Pujols and Cabrera deals work out for the Angels and Tigers?
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Payroll is one of the leading indicators of performance.
If it's spent smartly.
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