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re: 2023 Formula 1 season Thread

Posted on 11/6/23 at 7:40 am to
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 7:40 am to
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(assuming Abu Dhabi goes on)

Sounds like the cancellation rumor had no legs and Abu Dhabi will proceed as planned.

The UAE has had an increase in its terror threat level but that just means that now its on the same level as German, France and Belgium.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:04 am to
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If it were truly the greatest car of all timeses, Perez would do much better than he does. They also probably wouldn't get out-qualified at all, but they have on several occasions.



Well this is an odd argument. You're watching the most dominant season that a driver has ever had and you're arguing that his car isn't one of the more dominant cars ever because the second driver isn't doing as good as you would like him too. Makes sense. Do you not think it's possible for a driver to underperform in a car or something?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 11:36 am to
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Can Mercedes hold unto 2nd place? Likely to me


I think so. I think Lewis keeps them in the lead. Points from Piastri yesterday would have made it a little more interesting.

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Can AT take 7th? Not likely...


Hopefully not.

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Any miracle for Haas to get 9th? Not likely


Haas should honestly be embarrassed they are behind Alfa Romeo. I didn't think Haas would be good this year but dead last is a joke.

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Can Gasly catch Stroll for 10th? I am going to say yes


I would probably agree with you there. I don't know how the courses suit each driver but I don't really trust Stroll to put in another decent performance.

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Will Norris finish in 4th? I would say yes


Yes.

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Can Sainz jump Fernando and Norris? Maybe 1 but not both


I'm rooting for Carlos but this week hurt him. I can still see him jumping Fernando but I have a hard time seeing him beat out Lando. I think the McClaren is just a faster car right now.

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Can Nico or anyone below Bottas catch him? If i was betting, it would be Ric but still not likely


The race to see who is the best turd.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
13918 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 2:41 pm to
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I’m in Vegas now and I’d be hesitant to buy tickets other than those in front of Mirage or Billagio.

They are putting up bleachers in front of Venetian which won’t be able to see shite. You’d be across the other side of LV Blvd, blocked by median trees, and of course the fencing.



I hope it's the biggest shite show of all time.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
13918 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 2:53 pm to
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The race to see who is the best turd.



Speaking of Turds, why did Bottas lose his seat when his average season finish over 5 seasons with Mercedes was 3rd.

After 2 seasons it's looking like Russell's average season finish will be 6th.

George will have to win the F1 championship 3 seasons in a row to match Bottas' overall seasonal finish.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 3:02 pm to
one of them was in cars that were some of the greatest of all time, the other is in a car that is mediocre.

from 2017-2021 Lewis hamilton's average finish was #1.20 in 2 years since Bottas left it is looking like his average finish will be #4.5. Time to kick him to the kerb.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51333 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 3:16 pm to
IMO the RB19 is fast, stupid fast, but its also built to Max's very specific driving style, which is a very pointy, oversteer-dominant car. From everything ive read and watched, you can get pace out of the car, but you are driving on a razors edge. Max can do this, Sergio can't, but im sure others could.

So i think RB built an all-time great car, but you also need an all time great driver to get the most out of it.

You have to remember that Max has crushed 3 drivers now, Albon, Gasly and Checo. Danny seems to be able to handle the pressure, but others just can't seem to drive within themselves and not compete with Max. Checo seemed to be able to do that before this year, but then pressed way too much. I mean, do you know how embarrassing it is for a 10+ year, grand prix winning F1 driver to get GAPPED by .5+ seconds per lap routinely in race and quali pace?
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 3:17 pm
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
4024 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 3:23 pm to
I know it's been said 100 times but what a great track.
Vegas is going to be a cluster and everybody knows it.

It's a shame F1 will never see the truly great American tracks again.

As far as Leclerc losing hydraulics and Sainz having hydraulic issues a while back, I wonder how much them guys sweat driving it deep knowing they have a glitch or buggaboo in the systems. Seems so Ferrari.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29284 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 3:24 pm to
It's not fair to compare the the current gen merc with the previous gen merc. Let's also not forget Russell stepped in and nearly won a race against Bottas in the same car, but Mercedes botched it for Russell.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
4024 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5148 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:26 pm to
Still got two tickets for Vegas if anyone is interested. Got em listed at 2k each. Would let ‘em go for less than that to any of you baws.

Includes Wednesday night festivities.

East Harmon section 103 row 22.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34730 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 6:37 pm to
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Still got two tickets for Vegas if anyone is interested. Got em listed at 2k each. Would let ‘em go for less than that to any of you baws.



I might would take you up on it if it weren't in the middle of the fricking night.
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5148 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 6:47 pm to
I’m 35 pushing 60 according to my wife. This is gonna be rough the week after
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83714 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:34 am to
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I’m 35 pushing 60 according to my wife. This is gonna be rough the week after


Good luck man... Just left Vegas and man, it would be cool to see, but the headache and logistics just aren't worth it to me.

That place is a clusterfrick with just some of the strip shut down, can't imagine what its going to be like when they start closing everything off days before FP1.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33139 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 9:30 am to
ferrari fans talking about this. glad chuck is ok

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After five turns during the formation lap, the electronic self-protection system detected a completely abnormal value and shut everything down. If this had not happened, if the engine had not been immediately shut down by the system, it would have exploded a few meters later.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129476 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:11 am to
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If this had not happened, if the engine had not been immediately shut down by the system, it would have exploded a few meters later.


I doubt this

ferrari just covering for their shitbox
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28444 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 12:50 pm to
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I doubt this

ferrari just covering for their shitbox


I don't believe it either.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5342 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 1:56 pm to
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how embarrassing it is for a 10+ year, grand prix winning F1 driver to get GAPPED by .5+ seconds per lap routinely in race and quali pace?


Didnt Danny struggle in a McClaren built for Norris? Im afraid Danny in a RB would be similar results to being crushed.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33525 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 2:02 pm to
Didn't he drive the car off the track?

First it was a hydraulic issue. Now the engine was going to go nuclear.

Did leclerc just brain fart like he always does? I think so.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29284 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 2:32 pm to
He clarified post race that it wasn't hydraulics, but he wasn't at liberty to disclose it. I mean, technically his hydraulics probably failed, but that was after other parts of the car failed and shut down the hydraulics.
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