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2023 Formula 1 season Thread

Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:17 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:17 pm
The first livery reveal is days away so let's get a new season kicked off. Last season was a lot of fun, better racing than before I think. A pretty close constructors championship for much of the season. I don't think F1 is ready to declare victory yet over the new aero changes but they seem to be a step in the right direction at least. A lot of driver (and team lead) changes this year. Not much in the way of technical changes. A few rookies are coming in. We'll probably miss Danny Ric but it's nice to see Hulk back. So anyway I'm looking forward to some racing!

The Grid

No changes at the top this year but nearly every other team replaced a driver. Red Bull, Ferrari and Mercedes all remain the same, as does Alfa Romeo. Last year Sebastien Vettel announced his retirement, which started some dominoes falling. Fernando Alonso will take Seb's place at Aston Martin and Pierre Gasly then moved from AlphaTauri to take Alonso's spot at Alpine. {It'll be interesting to see how this dynamic plays out.} Haas replaced Mick Schumaker with Nico Hulkenberg, who has been a reserve driver and was out of the sport altogether for a while. AlphaTauri brought in Nyck De Vries to replace Gasly. McLaren brought in Oscar Piastri to take Daniel Riccardo's seat, who never seemed to like that car. If you had Logan Sargeant as the next American F1 Driver, congratulations! He comes into Williams to replace Nicolas Latifi.

There was sort of a 2nd silly season this year as team pricipals moved around. The big news is that Binotto was sacked at Ferrari after a series of bad strategy calls last season, coupled with reliability problems. Fred Vasseur returns to the Prancing Horse to replace him. {I'm pretty excited to see how this works out.} Alfa replaced Vasseur with Andreas Seidl formerly of McLaren. Then Andrea Stella was hired as the new Team Principal at McLaren. {I know I'm forgetting at least one other move.}

Here's the Lineup

Red Bull Racing - Max Verstappen, Sergio Perez
Scuderia Ferrari - Charles Leclerc, Carlos Sainz
Mercedes/AMG - George Russell, Lewis Hamilton
Alpine - Esteban Ocon, Pierre Gasly
McLaren - Oscar Piastri, Lando Norris
Alfa Romeo - Valteri Bottas, Zhou Guanyu
Aston Martin - Lance Stroll, Fernando Alonso
Haas - Kevin Magnussen, Nico Hulkenberg
AlphaTauri - Nyck De Vries, Yuki Tsunoda
Williams - Alexander Albon, Logan Sargeant

Rules Changes

As opposed to last year there aren't many changes to the car this year as far as I know. There are some changes designed to improve (hopefully eliminate) the bouncing and porpoising problem that plagued several teams last season. There are structural changes to prevent the roll hoop from shearing off the way Zhou's did in Silverstone last year. Other than that I think they'll be driving pretty much the same car from the standpoint of the technical regs.

Launch Dates {to be filled in w/ links as reveals happen}

Haas: Livery reveal More photos
Red Bull: first look car launch
Williams: car launch more photos analysis
Alfa Romeo: first look more photos major change
AlphaTauri: February 11
Aston Martin: February 13
McLaren: February 13
Ferrari: February 14
Mercedes: February 15
Alpine: February 16


Calendar

Only 3 days of testing is allowed this year. This fits with F1's overall theme of giving the teams less time to gather data, creating more guesswork and opportunities to be wrong and just generally making it harder for them. The hope is to mix up the field because some will get it right and some will get it wrong.

The racing calendar includes 23 races again with 3 US races I think for the first time ever. Races in Miami and Las Vegas were added in addition to COTA. To make room, the China GP was booted off the schedule. They've had to cancel it for 3 years running now so probably no great loss. The other loser was the French GP. So we gave up two road tracks for a couple of city street tracks but at least they were pretty crappy road circuits.

Preseason Testing

Thursday, February 23 – Day 1 – Bahrain International Circuit
Friday, February 24 – Day 2 – Bahrain International Circuit
Saturday, February 25 – Day 3 – Bahrain International Circuit

Racing Schedule

March 3-5: Bahrain Grand Prix, Sakhir
March 17-19: Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, Jeddah
March 31-April 2: Australian Grand Prix, Melbourne
April 28-30: Azerbaijan Grand Prix, Baku
May 5-7: Miami Grand Prix, Florida
May 19-21: Emilia Romagna Grand Prix, Imola
May 26-28: Monaco Grand Prix, Monaco
June 2-4: Spanish Grand Prix, Barcelona
June 16-18: Canadian Grand Prix, Montréal
June 30-July 2: Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg
July 7-9: British Grand Prix, Silverstone
July 21-23: Hungarian Grand Prix, Mogyoród
July 28-30: Belgian Grand Prix, Spa-Francorchamps
August 25-27: Dutch Grand Prix, Zandvoort
September 1-3: Italian Grand Prix, Monza
September 15-17: Singapore Grand Prix, Marina Bay
September 22-24: Japanese Grand Prix, Suzuka
October 6-8: Qatar Grand Prix, Lusail
October 20-22: United States Grand Prix, Austin
October 27-29: Mexico City Grand Prix, Mexico City
November 3-5: Sao Paulo Grand Prix, Interlagos
November 16-18: Las Vegas Grand Prix, Las Vegas
November 24-26: Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, Abu Dhabi
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 8:40 am
Posted by Snoopy04
Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2015
3015 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:53 pm to
It's lights out and away we go!

I'm ready!!
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4294 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:05 pm to


Will be interesting to see what happens this year. A lot of great storylines will play out this year. Can Ferrari get out of their own way(proably not), can Mercedes build on their late season surge from last year, can anyone stop Red Bull and Max from getting the 3-peat.
Posted by whichyalnoaboutseven
Metairie
Member since Dec 2009
2022 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:28 pm to
IN!

Max fan here but hoping for a more exciting season this year.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88660 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:31 pm to
IN. Ready to wake up on Sunday mornings with some racing
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
4865 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:14 am to
2023 - year of the race. Going to vegas in November and going to talladega in april.

Calling it now: Ferrari back on top!
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
35692 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:24 am to
In. McLaren Mania!
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35473 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:26 am to
Oh HELL YES! IN!

Scuderia Ferarri! Glutton for punishment that I am.
Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
3967 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:47 am to
I hope Sargeant is able to preform well and pick up a couple points.

Did Austin a couple years ago, would love to make it to vegas this year but don’t think it’s gonna happen.

Hope Max and Charles stay competitive throughout.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:02 am to
Thought we were doing "Pre Season" until reveals/testing were done and then kicking off the official in-season once race week kicked off
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14661 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:10 am to
quote:

Thought we were doing "Pre Season" until reveals/testing were done and then kicking off the official in-season once race week kicked off

If that was the case, my bad. This is how we've been doing it so I just went with it.
Posted by Lord_Ford
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3992 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:12 am to
Page 1 baybay!

Official prediction this year

Ferrari 1
Bulls 2
Merc 3
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48693 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:14 am to
LFG!

Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48693 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Thought we were doing "Pre Season" until reveals/testing were done and then kicking off the official in-season once race week kicked off

OP puts a lot of work into these threads, and it’s silly to have two threads IMO.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
7996 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:15 am to
Adam Stern
@A_S12

Stake, the offshore cryptocurrency betting platform that is aligned with Drake, has become a second title sponsor of Alfa Romeo F1 Team, which becomes Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake.

Stake replaces @PKN_ORLEN, which for now is still on the team's Twitter handle (@AlfaRomeoOrlen).



Adam Twit LINK
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
7996 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:20 am to
Adam Stern
@A_S12
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@F1 execs claim that @F1LasVegas will have a bigger economic impact than the 2024 @SuperBowl: "Super Bowl will be for one year, but we’re going to stay for a long time. ... We are going to mark F1 in Vegas as a place where we will develop the sport."

Review Journal Article LINK
Posted by Skeet Mc
Member since Dec 2006
2847 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:21 am to



IT’S THE BEST OF DAYS!!!!

2023 Red Bull Catering will be INTENSE!
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 11:24 am
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
7996 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:24 am to
Adam Stern
@A_S12
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@ResortsWorldLV unveiled curated F1 Vegas packages including a four-day, $888,000 version on the high end that features six Paddock Club tickets, a palace suite with a butler, entourage suite and VIP experiences.

The cheapest package is $8,750 a day ($35,000 for the weekend).



Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:26 am to
quote:

If that was the case, my bad. This is how we've been doing it so I just went with it.




No worries, just thought we had discussed because this because last year the thread was like 50 pages prior to the first race... We went balls deep on pre-season chat
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
7996 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:29 am to
Adam Stern
@A_S12

Max Verstappen is set to earn $55 million this year on the high end of @F1 salaries, while Logan Sargeant is around $1 million on the low end, per @RacingLines.

Driver Team Salary ($ million)Contract length

Verstappen Red Bull 55 2028
Hamilton Mercedes 35 2023
Leclerc Ferrari 24 2024
Norris McLaren 20 2025
Sainz Ferrari 12 2024
Perez Red Bull 10 2024
Bottas Alfa Romeo 10 2025
Russell Mercedes 8 2023
Ocon Alpine 6 2024+
Alonso Aston Martin 5 2024+
Gasly Alpine 5 2024+
Magnussen Haas 5 2023
Albon Williams 3 2024+
Stroll Aston Martin 2 Open
Hulkenberg Haas 2 2024
De Vries AlphaTauri 2 2023+
Zhou Alfa Romeo 2 2023
Piastri McLaren 2 2024+
Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1 2023+
Sargeant Williams 1 2023+

Racing News 365 LINK
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