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re: 102-Year-Old Iron Skillet Rivalry (TCU/SMU) Ending After 2025
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:25 am to Corinthians420
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:25 am to Corinthians420
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Baton Rouge and Gainesville aren't exactly neighbors either but it still feels like a big game every year.
It was a very big game for years. They've also at least shared conferences for a century, unlike the B1G teams and the teams formerly affiliated with the conference formerly known as the Pac 8/10/12.
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:31 am to WestCoastAg
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TCU fans seem pretty happy this game is going away
Last 3 have been really good games and had they played in 2020 SMU likely would have won that one.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:33 am to Buckeye Backer
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new rivalaries like Ohio State vs USC/UCLA/Oregon/Wash
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:37 am to rt3
money often aligns with rivalries… like Jerry Jones insisting the cowboys stay in the NFC east and wielding his big stick to do so.
I don’t know why college rivalries have to be different. Losing the Texas - TATM game for 10+ years cost the networks and schools millions. Pride is the worst and often costliest vice.
I don’t know why college rivalries have to be different. Losing the Texas - TATM game for 10+ years cost the networks and schools millions. Pride is the worst and often costliest vice.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 11:38 am
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:36 pm to WestCoastAg
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TCU fans seem pretty happy this game is going away
After jumping around various message boards, reddit, and twitter I would say this claim is false. Quite a few of them are not happy about this at all.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:41 pm to Dr RC
Their 150+ thread on their 24/7 board is probably 80/20 in favor of this
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:45 pm to Buckeye Backer
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I'd much rather gain new rivalaries like Ohio State vs USC/UCLA
Ok. Now tell me how we should cancel a rivalry of 2 schools an hour apart but we should try to care about Rutgers vs Washington.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:49 pm to rt3
Is this like LSU and Tulane where it didn’t make sense to play anymore?
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:49 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
Im ok with watching less Oregon State vs Washington State for more USC vs Penn State
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:50 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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Ok. Now tell me how we should cancel a rivalry of 2 schools an hour apart but we should try to care about Rutgers vs Washington.
Washington is going to fly directly over Pullman to get to the midwest and directly over Corvallis to get to LA to play UCLA and SC.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:51 pm to TejasHorn
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money often aligns with rivalries… like Jerry Jones insisting the cowboys stay in the NFC east and wielding his big stick to do so.
I don’t know why college rivalries have to be different.
Money wasn't a factor in college rivalries for the first 15 decades of this grand game. Most of the major college rivalries involve teams in the same state, in close proximity to one another, or in the same conference which was based on geographical proximity in the first place. But all that is being pissed away now for TV dollars.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:51 pm to WestCoastAg
I went to multiple sources. You went to a single thread for one of the shittiest message board systems on the internet.
Of course there have always been a bunch of loud frickheads who wanted to end it. Same as the stupid mother frickers who cried and cried that we should never play Texas again b/c "there is nothing to gain and everything to lose."
Anyone who talks like that is a fricking scared arse titty baby who doesn't actually like anything about what makes CFB special in the first place. The rivalries are what make it so much more fun than the NFL. Killing them off is a big fat negative for the sport.
Dumping a 100 year old rivalry so you can bring in teams like Duquesne and Tarleton for easy FCS wins and "P5" teams like Wake Forest and Rutgers isn't going to do jack shite for them other than guarantee one more game every year that Amon G Carter is more than half empty.
Their stupid arse leadership doesn't realize that as they say "Well it's just not worth it to us" the high end P5 teams they think are suddenly going jump to play them are thinking the EXACT same thing about them.
Of course there have always been a bunch of loud frickheads who wanted to end it. Same as the stupid mother frickers who cried and cried that we should never play Texas again b/c "there is nothing to gain and everything to lose."
Anyone who talks like that is a fricking scared arse titty baby who doesn't actually like anything about what makes CFB special in the first place. The rivalries are what make it so much more fun than the NFL. Killing them off is a big fat negative for the sport.
Dumping a 100 year old rivalry so you can bring in teams like Duquesne and Tarleton for easy FCS wins and "P5" teams like Wake Forest and Rutgers isn't going to do jack shite for them other than guarantee one more game every year that Amon G Carter is more than half empty.
Their stupid arse leadership doesn't realize that as they say "Well it's just not worth it to us" the high end P5 teams they think are suddenly going jump to play them are thinking the EXACT same thing about them.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 8/16/23 at 12:52 pm to WestCoastAg
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Im ok with watching less Oregon State vs Washington State for more USC vs Penn State
Oregon State and Washington State are still going to play more than SC and Penn State.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:05 pm to Dr RC
Alright
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:07 pm to WestCoastAg
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Im ok with watching less Oregon State vs Washington State for more USC vs Penn State
When it's 6-4 USC vs 5-5 Penn State, no one will watch outside of those fanbases, and at that point, even most of USC's fanbase will find something else to do. There's no rivalry or tradition between these two teams to get people to watch when it isn't a marquee matchup. That's the part the TV people don't seem to understand.
Guido Joe in the Bronx definitely won't give a shite then. The Oregon State fan who the TV execs are shitting on would have previously watched 6-4 USC vs 5-5 Penn State. Now they won't.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:12 pm to Buckeye Backer
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The hyperventilating over stuff like this is ridiculous. I'd much rather gain new rivalaries like Ohio State vs USC/UCLA/Oregon/Wash. Who cares about TCU/SMU???
Fans in Dallas/North Texas who went to those schools and alumni, etc.
Shitting on 100+ universities and their fanbases to the *supposed* benefit of a couple dozen schools in the top tier of competition is not going to end well. Loyal fans of historical programs that are being pushed aside during all this aren’t going to be tuning into the super conference games.
It’s going to result in decreased attendance nationwide, and eventually less eyeballs on TV.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:17 pm to Indefatigable
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It’s going to result in decreased attendance nationwide, and eventually less eyeballs on TV.
Exactly. One of the defenses you'll hear from people about TV controlling all of this is well the eyeballs on TV are what matter!
Well guess what? You know the #1 way you get lifelong fans who are willing to watch college football on TV? It's getting people to go to the games and fall in love w/all the pageantry and tradition of the sport.
Good fricking lord these assholes are following the exact path the morons at NASCAR walked and it's going ruin the game.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:19 pm to Buckeye Backer
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Who is watching TCU/SMU...The hyperventilating over stuff like this is ridiculous. I'd much rather gain new rivalaries like Ohio State vs USC/UCLA/Oregon/Wash. Who cares about TCU/SMU???
Yeah, who cares about tradition and historical rivalries that made college football great for over a century? Dumbass.
The 1935 Iron Skillet game was one of the first in the history of the sport to be coined "the Game of the Century" by Grantland Rice.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 1:29 pm to Indefatigable
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Loyal fans of historical programs that are being pushed aside during all this aren’t going to be tuning into the super conference games.
It’s going to result in decreased attendance nationwide, and eventually less eyeballs on TV.
TV execs are banking on the diehard college football fans continuing to watch even after their schools are shut out of the party, and they believe that a bunch of NFL fans in the Northeast will drop what they're doing to watch a big college game (hint: they won't). They think that whatever audience they lose among the diehards will be made up by gaining casual viewers. I really don't think this will work out like they think it will.
TV execs are desperately trying to tap into the Northeast Corridor and they're willing to radically change the sport to do it. The problem is that absolutely no one in that region of the country cares about college football, and a matchup between 4-4 Oregon and 5-3 Michigan isn't going to change that.
Hell, a matchup between 12-1 Georgia and 12-1 Michigan didn't change that. I was in New England that night and absolutely no one there gave a shite.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:12 am to Dr RC
As a Tcu fan I’m disappointing this game is going away
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