re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me

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The easy answer is to find another parish but why should I have to move to make more?

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Teaching is not the only job that this applies to. I had to change jobs a few times before I landed in something that pays well.

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Teachers with masters degrees getting only $500/yr more than a bachelors degree is kind of a joke imo

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No shite. There's absolutely no incentive to get a Master's or a Master's +30

This is not the case in other states.

Y'all are forgetting another perk teachers have... job security. The only thing they can get fired for is diddling the kids.

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When I was growing up, teachers were literally off the whole summer. Our school year ran from Labor Day to Memorial Day. Today, the old "teachers get summers off" isn't really true

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With all due respect, once you hit year 5 how hard is planning your following years? I know things change, but no THAT much. You aren't teaching spanish instead of English.

I know plenty of women that teach basically the same grade for their entire career. If you are 55 and have taught 2nd grade for 22 years your classroom expenses and plans should be pretty easy, basically sleep walking.

Also, if you are dumb and lazy that doesn't mean you deserve a pay raise because you have to work harder. There are tons of ways to get your work done on the clock. Its not that hard to grade unless you are an english or history teacher or something having to read 55 essays, but even that is fairly easy. By year 18 you know To Kill a Mockingbird by the page number.

I'm not saying its an easy job because it isn't, but I'm saying that it should get easier and there is no need for a 2nd grade teacher with 25 years experience to earn $80k when one with 10 years experience can make $60k.

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In my 6 years I'm on my forth curriculum so things i used in year one are no longer relevant. The material is constantly changing and as a teacher you need to adapt, what i used last year won't work on my students this year as they're different. No longer do you see teachers using the same lesson plan for 20/ years

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Just teach history, problem solved

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With all due respect, once you hit year 5 how hard is planning your following years?

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Every week, my wife has to turn in lesson plans to the principals, using a website.

These lesson plans don't just say "read To Kill a Mockingbird, pages 7-18, discuss". They are broken down by class period, with not only a detailed description of what they will do in class, but they have to identify what standards are being taught by that material. Such as, this lesson will cover standard 3-14.8(d)(3)ii and 3-14.6(f)(4).

She teaches 3 classes a day, 15 classes a week, and it takes about 4 min per class to type in all of the information requested. So that's an hour per week. And this is WITH her spending time planning our her year and following an approved curriculum.

Assuming that you aren't in subject that has changing material, you still have to deal with the following:

1) Standards changing every 4-5 years due to political winds from the people in the state/federal education departments

2) textbooks changing, which changes everything from the order in which you teach, to the page numbers you cover, to the questions you use for tests, etc.

3) Progression throughout the year, sometimes, classes learn faster or slower than past year, unexpected days off, etc.

Sure, as long as you are teaching the same subject each year, it does get "easier'. But to call it sleep walking is pretty wrong. There is a TON of BS that the teachers deal with during the year that doesn't change or get easier.

Look, I've learned a lot being married to a teacher. It's nothing like I thought it was.

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You really can't complain about pay if it sucks for your area. You gotta follow the money just like any job.

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Right. So maybe teachers don't deserve any more money, because, hey, they knew it, right?

Meanwhile, pretty much all school districts have current or impending teacher shortages for all subjects outside of the lower grades and history. Schools in the south are filling up with Teach for America types who want to "play teacher in a poor area" for two years after graduating from their elite liberal college, then when they realize that teaching is hard, they move on to something else.

There's a real lack of teachers in the late 20's to early 40s age-wise. We have a bunch of old arse teachers who don't want to learn technology and don't want to adapt, and we have a bunch of young teachers who bounce after a couple of years when they realize it's hard yet have to listen to people like you who demean them and think it's easy.

If you think teachers are overpaid or don't deserve more money, fair enough. Just don't complain when the schools suck and the kids are dumb as rocks. You get what you pay for.

she likely has three at 90 minute block classes

That isn't even true anymore unless you join the union