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The Spleen
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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I'll agree teachers know the pay beforehand but as school systems continue to ask more and more from teachers they should compensate them more



I agree with this. When I was growing up, teachers were literally off the whole summer. Our school year ran from Labor Day to Memorial Day. Today, the old "teachers get summers off" isn't really true. My teacher friends spend a good deal of their summers going to seminars and meetings and the like, then they're at the school a couple of weeks before the kids get there getting their classroom ready. They probably end up getting a little over a month off. Still a nice perk, but certainly not the entire summer.

And teaching is a damn hard job. Teachers should be well rewarded for the crap they put with, be it from students, administrators, parents, etc.


Eric Nies Grind Time
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
Do teachers pensions get COLA?


Epic Cajun
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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The easy answer is to find another parish but why should I have to move to make more?

Teaching is not the only job that this applies to. I had to change jobs a few times before I landed in something that pays well.


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jimbeam
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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The easy answer is to find another parish but why should I have to move to make more?


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bayoubengals88
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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Teachers with masters degrees getting only $500/yr more than a bachelors degree is kind of a joke imo
No shite. There's absolutely no incentive to get a Master's or a Master's +30

This is not the case in other states.


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TheWiz
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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Do teachers pensions get COLA?


TRSL PBI (COLA)


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AaronDeTiger
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
Y'all are forgetting another perk teachers have... job security. The only thing they can get fired for is diddling the kids.


TigerintheNO
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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annual pension payment at retirement is likely 10K a year more than social security would be but they are paying in a higher rate as well.


I figured it would be closer to 40-50K


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baldona
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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When I was growing up, teachers were literally off the whole summer. Our school year ran from Labor Day to Memorial Day. Today, the old "teachers get summers off" isn't really true


With all due respect, once you hit year 5 how hard is planning your following years? I know things change, but no THAT much. You aren't teaching spanish instead of English.

I know plenty of women that teach basically the same grade for their entire career. If you are 55 and have taught 2nd grade for 22 years your classroom expenses and plans should be pretty easy, basically sleep walking.

Also, if you are dumb and lazy that doesn't mean you deserve a pay raise because you have to work harder. There are tons of ways to get your work done on the clock. Its not that hard to grade unless you are an english or history teacher or something having to read 55 essays, but even that is fairly easy. By year 18 you know To Kill a Mockingbird by the page number.

I'm not saying its an easy job because it isn't, but I'm saying that it should get easier and there is no need for a 2nd grade teacher with 25 years experience to earn $80k when one with 10 years experience can make $60k.


KG6
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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the old "teachers get summers off" isn't really true. My teacher friends spend a good deal of their summers going to seminars and meetings and the like, then they're at the school a couple of weeks before the kids get there getting their classroom ready.


Meanwhile every other job gets to work the entire summer. I don't really recall my dad working hard at all during the summer outside of coaching or secondary jobs he took for the summer like managing a rec league at the local Y or something. I also don't ever remember my dad ever working at home during the school year. He had a planning period and used it, and went in an hour before school started. I'm fairly certain he'd tell you the only drawback was dealing with shitty kids.




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tduecen
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
In my 6 years I'm on my forth curriculum so things i used in year one are no longer relevant. The material is constantly changing and as a teacher you need to adapt, what i used last year won't work on my students this year as they're different. No longer do you see teachers using the same lesson plan for 20/ years


Epic Cajun
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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In my 6 years I'm on my forth curriculum so things i used in year one are no longer relevant. The material is constantly changing and as a teacher you need to adapt, what i used last year won't work on my students this year as they're different. No longer do you see teachers using the same lesson plan for 20/ years


Just teach history, problem solved


baldona
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
Teacher's also get a lot of fricking holidays off. I mean basically like every single one.

Many jobs outside of banking, teaching, and government are lucky to get all of the big 6 Holidays every year.

You really can't complain about pay if it sucks for your area. You gotta follow the money just like any job.
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LSUFanHouston
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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With all due respect, once you hit year 5 how hard is planning your following years?


Every week, my wife has to turn in lesson plans to the principals, using a website.

These lesson plans don't just say "read To Kill a Mockingbird, pages 7-18, discuss". They are broken down by class period, with not only a detailed description of what they will do in class, but they have to identify what standards are being taught by that material. Such as, this lesson will cover standard 3-14.8(d)(3)ii and 3-14.6(f)(4).

She teaches 3 classes a day, 15 classes a week, and it takes about 4 min per class to type in all of the information requested. So that's an hour per week. And this is WITH her spending time planning our her year and following an approved curriculum.

Assuming that you aren't in subject that has changing material, you still have to deal with the following:

1) Standards changing every 4-5 years due to political winds from the people in the state/federal education departments

2) textbooks changing, which changes everything from the order in which you teach, to the page numbers you cover, to the questions you use for tests, etc.

3) Progression throughout the year, sometimes, classes learn faster or slower than past year, unexpected days off, etc.

Sure, as long as you are teaching the same subject each year, it does get "easier'. But to call it sleep walking is pretty wrong. There is a TON of BS that the teachers deal with during the year that doesn't change or get easier.

Look, I've learned a lot being married to a teacher. It's nothing like I thought it was.


LSUFanHouston
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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I don't really recall my dad working hard at all during the summer outside of coaching or secondary jobs he took for the summer like managing a rec league at the local Y or something. I also don't ever remember my dad ever working at home during the school year.


Right, because what teachers did 20 years ago is relevant to what teachers do today.

This thread is showing some OT-level ignorance.


LSUFanHouston
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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You really can't complain about pay if it sucks for your area. You gotta follow the money just like any job.


Right. So maybe teachers don't deserve any more money, because, hey, they knew it, right?

Meanwhile, pretty much all school districts have current or impending teacher shortages for all subjects outside of the lower grades and history. Schools in the south are filling up with Teach for America types who want to "play teacher in a poor area" for two years after graduating from their elite liberal college, then when they realize that teaching is hard, they move on to something else.

There's a real lack of teachers in the late 20's to early 40s age-wise. We have a bunch of old arse teachers who don't want to learn technology and don't want to adapt, and we have a bunch of young teachers who bounce after a couple of years when they realize it's hard yet have to listen to people like you who demean them and think it's easy.

If you think teachers are overpaid or don't deserve more money, fair enough. Just don't complain when the schools suck and the kids are dumb as rocks. You get what you pay for.


Epic Cajun
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Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
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She teaches 3 classes a day, 15 classes a week, and it takes about 4 min per class to type in all of the information requested. So that's an hour per week. And this is WITH her spending time planning our her year and following an approved curriculum.

So, she’s only teaching 15 hours a week, and has 25 hours a week to perform the other administrative work (planning, etc...) that goes along with teaching?


TigerintheNO
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Member since Jan 2004
31083 posts

re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
she likely has three at 90 minute block classes


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tduecen
New York Yankees Fan
Member since Nov 2006
140869 posts

re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
Even that is not as dimple as it use to be, now they want you to use DBQ type assessments and more writing, no more True/False or matching questions


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tduecen
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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
That isn't even true anymore unless you join the union


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