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re: Teachers of Money Talk - or husbands of teachers like me
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:16 pm to corndawg85
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:16 pm to corndawg85
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15.7 match is sweet, about to go up in July to over 17%.
am I the only one who noticed this part? I've never heard of matching this high. quote:
use to be 25 years of service until you could retire, but now its 30 years.
you mean you won't be able to retire at 47? what a drag.
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If you can put up with the government red tape for 8 years
As opposed to private sector red tape? This is called working. Its what workers do. everywhere.
None of the drawbacks you listed seem like drawbacks to me; more like great benefits that are between average and insanely awesome.
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:24 pm to whg335
I've volunteered for some daycare centers, and know exactly what their teachers make. Its $7.25 - $8.50 an hour. No overtime, very few other tangible benefits.
Thats in the ballpark of $15,000-$18,000.
$124,000?
wrong. just wrong.
Thats in the ballpark of $15,000-$18,000.
$124,000?
wrong. just wrong.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 4:08 pm to randybobandy
This is it plain and simple. Compensation is not the perk of being a teacher, but it is reasonable. The retirement benefits, health insurance, and uniterrupted lengthy durations of vacation days are the perks. If a teacher wants a job that gives you an endless opportunity at available work hours go be a welder or a nurse...night shift pays well.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 4:20 pm to whg335
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See link for teacher shortage info If teachers even made what daycare centers make to babysit they would rack in over $100 grand. At a minimum teachers are responsible for 22-34 students per day. Take the average of 28 . Multiply that by $25 dollars a day, (which is the minimum a daycare would charge) that’s $700 a day. In Louisiana students are in class 178 days a year. That’s $124,600.00 a year. That’s just for babysitting, not teaching them anything. Although I know most daycares do have instructional programs This post was edited on 4/14 at 7:30 pm
That’s silly, teachers don’t have overhead like daycares
Posted on 4/16/19 at 4:20 pm to yellowfin
There is a lot of misconceptions of teaching in here
Posted on 4/16/19 at 4:22 pm to whg335
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However, many teachers do put in time after hours planning and grading.
My mom was a teacher, she did this
She was also off a total of 180 days give or take a few. That’s half the year
Posted on 4/16/19 at 4:24 pm to tduecen
Like what?
Posted on 4/17/19 at 9:32 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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She was also off a total of 180 days give or take a few.
this is a meaningless stat. why are you counting the same days every other salaried employee gets off each year?
agree with earlier posters re. teachers being willing to work more to earn the extra $ people want to attribute to those days off. it's not like they can just go find a 2mo a year job in the summer paying their full salary. for some people, summer off is a big perk, but for some it's a burden.
teaching (primary and secondary) is a job with little room for growth and underappreciated. it's hard to hire good teachers because why the hell would anybody choose to do it?
Posted on 4/17/19 at 9:39 am to lsujro
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why the hell would anybody choose to do it?
Because money is not the driving factor (or even high on the list) of satisfaction for some individuals.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:05 am to lynxcat
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Because money is not the driving factor (or even high on the list) of satisfaction for some individuals.
rhetorical question. i understand some people feel called to teach. i suspect there are many more qualified people who choose not to. people (including several in this thread) love to complain about unqualified people teaching. unfortunately, people who are intelligent and educated tend to steer toward professions that compensate them for those talents.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 3:39 pm to lsujro
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people (including several in this thread) love to complain about unqualified people teaching.
I think we require too many qualifications. There’s no reason a 2nd grade teacher needs a 4 year college degree
Posted on 4/17/19 at 4:27 pm to yellowfin
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I think we require too many qualifications. There’s no reason a 2nd grade teacher needs a 4 year college degree
Oh SNAP! I was called out for saying there's little need to give a pay raise for a master's for those teaching in elementary school. You gone and done it now man.
Why do all jobs have to have upward mobility and other factors? If you have a couple that are both teachers, they can get to $100,000+ income very quickly and easily in most of the country. Retire at 55 with a mostly relaxed lifestyle and good retirement.
Not everything in life is about getting rich.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 6:18 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Some teachers are given the option to work summer school, not all, as all aren't needed, and that's only part of the summer.
They could always work a different job...
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:35 pm to yellowfin
And they don’t make near what the owners of daycare centers make
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:36 pm to rotrain
I’m referring to owners not staff
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:44 pm to nated14
Understood, but good teachers can’t get raises based on performance. That’s one of the major problems with teacher pay.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:46 pm to baldona
Actually, it helps a bit more for the individual than the actual classroom. Having a masters as an elementary educator ensures you've studied more on the dynamics of child development which is what it focuses on
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:59 pm to whg335
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Understood, but good teachers can’t get raises based on performance. That’s one of the major problems with teacher pay.
Agreed. Teacher's being bracketed to pretty narrow pay ranges doesn't reward [or penalize] performance.
I would have zero issues with the very best teachers earning six figures, especially at the high school level.
My calculus teacher in HS was better than the guy I had in college. She should be compensated as such. Almost the entire class passed AP exams with flying colors under her teaching.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:24 pm to whg335
quote:Honest question: what happens to the teachers who work at crap schools?
Understood, but good teachers can’t get raises based on performance. That’s one of the major problems with teacher pay.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 6:16 pm to jimbeam
For the majority of them nothing. There aren’t any certified teachers waiting to take their place so they usually get to stay. Although not all teachers at a bad school are bad. There are other factors that make a school bad.
I am for good teachers willing to teach in bad areas/schools to b paid more. Another systematic problem.
I am for good teachers willing to teach in bad areas/schools to b paid more. Another systematic problem.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 6:17 pm
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