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Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
1424 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:26 pm to
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my Edward Jones guy


Does that return include or exclude his fees?

How / What is he adding value above say what you can get by index investing (Vanguard 3 fund strategy as one example) and expense ratios that I suspect are a fraction of EJs.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Rabt
Member since Jan 2021
37 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:24 pm to
Give some to the advisor and you invest some of it. You can to ETF's until you get more comfortable before wading into stocks. Most advisors cannot beat the S&P so try VOO or SPY and compare your returns at the end of the year.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2886 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:18 pm to
You can probably manage it yourself with minimal education and save on fees.
If it was me, I'd determine an allocation to meet my risk profile and stick to it. Buy index funds and not try to pick individual stocks. i'd use a simple 3 fund portfolio for instance. Use the funds in retirement accounts to rebalance without tax implications in taxable brokerage. Typically put your equity allocation in taxable instead of bonds which yield may be taxed as regular income.
Those 2 funds you picked are reasonable index choices with low expense ratios but they are virtually duplicates of each other just pick one of them next time.
Better yet, in taxable brokerage use ETFs instead of mutual funds because they typically dont disperse capital gains along the way until.you sell.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
48245 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 6:08 pm to
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NW proceeded to liquidate all the Prudential funds and converted them to NW branded funds that were all front loaded with 6% fees.

Typical of any insurance company that offers investment options. They are all designed the same way regarding fees and they’re all absolute shite. I sat in meetings between customers and the State Farm agent who took me under his wing and taught me about the business 15 years ago. I listened as he talked these options up as such fantastic options for the clients and I would remain quiet. Most customers didn’t think to ask about the fees but one day this really anal bastard came in and had tons of questions. He brought up the fee structure and it opened my eyes. I was green to the industry and it got me thinking. After that meeting, I asked the agent if I could pick his brain about things and he said yes. So I sat in his office for two hours asking about the products and how he sells them so successfully. He brought up the fees and how they suck compared to most brokerages, but because his office is in such a small town of low income low educated people, it was like shooting fish in a barrel. That agent happens to be a cousin of mine who was not only born into an absolute shite ton of money (as in over $50 million) but also he’s taken his daddy’s money and used it to start tons of businesses and he’s amassed hundreds of millions of dollars now. I was comfortable enough to ask him if he has his money in those investment options and he smirked, then explained that only a small amount of his overall net worth is in State Farm’s options and that he has the majority of his money spread out over other brokerages with low fees.

Long story short: tell any insurance agent who asks you to move investments over to their brokerage to go frick themselves.
Posted by IbalLSUfaninVA
Alexandria
Member since Jul 2008
3537 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 6:41 pm to
You can meet with a fa once to validate your strategy and then do it yourself.
Posted by theRealJesseD
Member since Nov 2021
4453 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 7:39 pm to
yea go waste someones time and be a dick. Great advice!
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1650 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 9:40 pm to
I did my own for years but once I made a few mistakes and got tired of fooling with it too often I gave it to a local Baton Rouge company and he has made me more money than I ever made on my own. He kept my good stocks, sold a bunch of the dogs and has make me wealthy in 2 years.

Give the money to a pro. Interview him(her) and let him show you how he'll invest your money. I'm very risk averse and even at 72, I expect growth. I don't need the income.

My guy is about my age and his son works for him and he has some great young talent. They charge 1%.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26748 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:50 am to
Sounds like you are in great shape, financially. Why don't you take a percentage of your portfolio and try investing on your own? You can learn a bit and you may enjoy it. Take an amount that you are comfortable losing, but with an objective of beating your current rates. You can develop a strategy that works for you and have some fun with it. It doesn't have to be a lot of money, but you may learn what your current portfolio shortcomings are, as well.

With your income and portfolio value, you can do this without risking your retirement.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 7:14 am
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2501 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:03 am to
I have Edward Jones and Ameriprise. Both are good but EJ is doing better. The drawback is if their analysts don't recommend the stock, they can't recommend it either. You have to push them to pursue. Nuclear is an example. I told EJ over a year ago to invest in nuclear, and they had little to no information on the industry. Big returns.

I have a guy in NYC I recently started investing with. He is part of a small firm. I consider him to be my wolf of wall street guy and urge him to invest aggressively. I am sure he gets access to information that no advisors at the big box stores get. So far he has been killing it.

Advisors like any service makes everything convenient, and they do have access to information that is probably hard to replicate by you alone. When you need life insurance and a trust, just call the advisor and they both guide and handle it for you. They introduce me to strategies I have never heard of.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
134886 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:15 am to
quote:

Is it better to invest with a financial advisor who works for a reputable company or ….
invest on your own?
You have the assets to reasonably do both. Then you'll be able to answer your own question. Keep your financial guy for the time being, but fund your own personal account. Set up a portfolio. Work it for a year or so. Then compare results. Based on your post, I suspect you'd outperform your NW guy.

In terms of stocks vs funds, as much as folks attribute individual stock transactions to brilliance, IMO it's much more about simply having the discipline and time to research, invest, and closely follow the markets.

It sounds like you're occupied full time elsewhere. So a basket of funds in your personal portfolio would probably be the best way to get your feet wet.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
900 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:55 am to
Good question.

You could pay someone 1-3% of your funds every year to pick some mutual funds that you could pick yourself.

They get paid even if they lose your money. Which is bonkers.

Or you could just pick some mutual funds yourself.

Most "financial advisors" did not go to Brown or Harvard. They went to regional schools or community colleges.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
6827 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:49 pm to
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80% in SPLG, which is a low cost S&P 500 ETF 20% in QQQM, which is a NASDAQ 100 ETF Put it on cruise control, keep adding to it, don’t go in and out of other ETF’s, be patient and you will become very wealthy.


The hard part is the cruise control. Because once or twice a decade that statement value will go down 30-50% and how they manage that shift in balance will answer on whether they need an advisor or not. Lots of people feel really good investing when the market is shooting up. Those same people make horrible emotional decisions when the market goes down. Even people who swear they barely ever look at it will go rush to cash when the market has already hit bottom 40% lower.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23476 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:57 pm to
Are you familiar with SPY? QQQ?
That’s about all you need to know.
Take a flyer or two on some of the individual names you see here.
There’s a lot of growth happening now.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30849 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:02 pm to
I've done way better on my own for two and a half decades. I'm better for it as well.
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
1309 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:34 pm to
I was talking to a who is with Edward Jones and Was asking him about how he was doing because the market has been so hot that anybody can look good. He said he wished he could do more but almost all the really hot stocks are off limits. As is Bitcoin or anything new like high yield leveraged ETFs. But he was also taking a family vacation to the Great Barrier Reef on EJ's dime. Boring pays well I guess.

For the OP. Why not try some yourself and look at it like gambling? You'll learn pretty quick and realize you can probably do much better.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87275 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 11:40 pm to
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with my Edward Jones guy.


all have ran away from EJ the last 20 years. you might be the last of the mohicans. nobody here uses EJ on this board. well, but you.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87275 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 11:43 pm to
a fricking moron who does not wanna trade, does not need dividend paying ETFS can just throw 50% of money in QQQ and 50% in VOO and forget it and they would make a killing over time.
Posted by Tiger4life306
Member since Apr 2016
605 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:18 am to
Splitting hairs here but why buy QQQ and VOO when you can buy QQQM and SPLG?
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
5846 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:26 am to
Congrats on your dad paying 20K a year (1% average) to some guy for doing almost absolutely nothing but using a formula.

If this guy just has 10 clients like your dad, he would gross 200K a year. 100? 2M.

This is why hedge fund managers can get so filthy rich. Skim off a ton of people. Only issue is getting the clients. That’s why they send out those free dinner flyers to restaurants. All the need is 1 sucker and the cost pays for itself easily.
Posted by Hawgleg
Member since Jan 2022
501 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:22 pm to
I have my money, Stocks, MFs, iras with EJ.
I have average 13.09 percent since inception.
Apple has inflated that but I am happy with it.

If that trend continues, i dont expect it, I will retire in 5 yrs. at 59
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