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re: Do people still plan on retiring at 65?
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:04 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:04 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
How did you achieve financial independence at age 41? Looking for guidance to do the same.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:15 pm to tigersfan1989
I plan to be retired well before 65...
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:41 pm to tigersfan1989
Just consistently lived below our means. Maxed TSP (401k) and Roth IRAs and then some mostly in low cost index funds for past 15+ years. Paid off mortgage on starter home early, drove cars for 10 years and avoided debt. Earned a military pension and funded kids' future college expenses with GI bill transfer and 529s. Never lived on a budget we're just frugal. I've traveled as much as I could given demanding work schedule and deployments and we own more than enough stuff, much more than either of us grew up with. By controlling the money we've avoided financial stress and now it gives us the freedom to do whatever is best for our family.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 4:34 am to Stateguy
Save for 40 years to retire for 5 and die. Not me I'm out at 60.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 4:55 am to TheriotAF
I plan to retire at 61 from my job.
I might keep my side hustle a few years after that,.
I might keep my side hustle a few years after that,.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 6:44 am to TheriotAF
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Do people still plan on retiring at 65?
Just turned 48 and planning on pulling the trigger soon, my wife has made me promise to do it before 50 anyway.
Thinking of buying some low impact business just to keep busy and pocket a few coins though.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 6:58 am to TheriotAF
Retirement is a completely overrated term that needs to go away. The term used should be financial independence. I think a part time job well into your 70s is fantastic, something ‘fun’ like working at a hardware store, fishing store, school for women maybe, etc. Even $15,000 in income can go a long ways in Financial independence in your 60s.
My FIL retired in his mid 50s. At 63 he has now given up skiing due to health, he’s very healthy but he’s not spry anymore and he knows one bad day on the slopes could ruin him for years. As said, after 70 your health goes to shite. Constant doctors appointments, injuries take forever to heal, etc. if you want to do things like RV the country or anything moderately physical then waiting until you are 65 or older is going to make it very difficult.
My FIL retired in his mid 50s. At 63 he has now given up skiing due to health, he’s very healthy but he’s not spry anymore and he knows one bad day on the slopes could ruin him for years. As said, after 70 your health goes to shite. Constant doctors appointments, injuries take forever to heal, etc. if you want to do things like RV the country or anything moderately physical then waiting until you are 65 or older is going to make it very difficult.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:09 am to hungryone
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Please look at your parents and grandparents at age 75....Aging diminishes us all, some faster than others. Most 75 year olds are not capable of doing demanding full time work.
My grandfather worked until he was 82, not because he had to, but because he enjoyed work (also the owner) He is 94 and in great health for a 94 year old.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:26 am to TheriotAF
I plan on retiring by around 60. I've gone into rental properties like many on here so I have multiple income streams later in life. This may expand into commercial at some point, but for now I'll stick to what I know and build an account up. My uncle owns a ton of property and it's all paid off so he's got it made. Between that and his retirement plan, that's what I hope to have. Thankfully I'm still young so building a portfolio in which I've been extremely picky in has been great so far. Two properties and have come in not only well below appraisal but way about the 1% mark.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:32 am to tigeraddict
My Dad is 82 and just had hip replacement. Was back to his full time job in 3 weeks. To prepare for surgery he took his first blood test, first chest X-ray and first EKG. He doesn’t do any kind of regular exercise or follow a special diet he just eats in moderation. His job is stress free and it really keeps him active and mentally sharp
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:54 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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TorchtheFlyingTiger
Kudos to your success. Your method and approach to financial management is textbook millionaire next door. I suspect many of us would find more peace and happiness if we could just throttle back the “keeping up with the Joneses” lure.
I made a good living and went to part time @ 55. Expect to wrap that up at 65. Want more freedom to travel and enjoy daily living on my terms.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:35 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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drove cars for 10 years and avoided debt.
I used this example with my kids and it is a great one that they all understand as young adults.
It is tough convincing teenagers that a fancy new vehicle does not equate wealth, hell most adults do not understand it.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:37 am to TheriotAF
If my life continues as is for the next 6 1/2 years, I'll be retired at 55.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:49 am to TheriotAF
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Do people still plan on retiring at 65?
Many people I know plan to retire before 65. I certainly don't plan to be working that long either.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:08 am to TheriotAF
Just turned 60 and have 40 years service with my company. The most important recommendation from financial advisors has put me on the fence from retiring anytime soon. "Don't retire/get in the market at the wrong time." Yeah, like in 2000 and 2007. Since we are 'due' for a correction, I'm in no hurry retire. I might rather wait until I'm 62 just to have that income (where if the market does tank, I won't have to pull from stocks but can ride it out with the extra cash SS would provide). Retirement means I'll have to gamble for the rest of my life to maintain my current lifestyle. Growth has to come from somewhere as inflation eats away at cash/pension. Not looking forward to the ups and downs of financial investments.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:30 am to Enadious
I watched my husband's parents continue to work past retirement age--they were the sort of people who derived a great deal of meaning/identity from their jobs. Despite having fully funded pensions, they kept working. Despite major health issues, they kept working, albeit at a reduced level. They traveled a bit, he finally completely retired & found a volunteer job. Both were dead within 5 years of retirement. He died w/a trip to Spain on the books, she never made it to Hawaii. Both could have easily afforded to stop working at least a decade earlier. They worked out of anxiety about money (unfounded in reality or logic), out of a desire to pass along something to their children (who didn't need it), and because at some point, work had replaced everything else that gives shape, meaning, and joy to a life.
Don't defer the "big dreams" of your life to its end. Odds are NOT in your favor that you will have an illness or injury free last third of your life, especially if you have been cavalier with your health/diet/exercise in the first 2/3 of it. Save, practice thrift, but find ways to go & do that aren't rooted in luxury, but rather experience. Recognize that funding a third trip to Disneyland is not as important to your grandchildren as spending time with them fishing, building birdhouses, or reading stories in the hammock.
Time is always more important than money. If you aren't focused on accumulating possessions, then you won't worry about "standard of living" in retirement.
Don't defer the "big dreams" of your life to its end. Odds are NOT in your favor that you will have an illness or injury free last third of your life, especially if you have been cavalier with your health/diet/exercise in the first 2/3 of it. Save, practice thrift, but find ways to go & do that aren't rooted in luxury, but rather experience. Recognize that funding a third trip to Disneyland is not as important to your grandchildren as spending time with them fishing, building birdhouses, or reading stories in the hammock.
Time is always more important than money. If you aren't focused on accumulating possessions, then you won't worry about "standard of living" in retirement.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:00 am to TheChosenOne
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65? shite, I’m planning to retire at 57
There’s probably a good work related reason that causes us both to plan to retire at age 57, but that’s my plan as well and I’m looking forward to it.
Thanks to good planning, it’s going to be a good retirement... unless they kill me first. My term life insurance expires before then, so I still have a few years to be worth more to my wife alive than I would be worth to her dead.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:17 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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I plan on retiring at 45 I'll probably work part-time but won't need to. I achieved financial independence at 41 but decided to work a few more years just to have extra cushion and delay drawing on investments
care to elaborate on how this was achieved?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:14 am to nolaks
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care to elaborate on how this was achieved?
Some lucky breaks.
Parents pay for college, get in early with a company that then gets bought out, don't have kids, rise the corporate ladder rapidly, marry someone who earns as much or more than you, have a tight budget, etc.
Two people making $150-200K each by 30 is somewhat feasible for white collar professionals...reaching $400K gross means take home around $260K. Live on $60K annually and save the remaining $200K...this could add up pretty rapidly over a decade or so.
I know this is not feasible for many but that's the type of scenario where someone has financial independence in his/her 40s.
Also, couple could work in the US, save a ton, and then relocate to a low cost region of the world. Moving to Thailand or even a place like Portugal allows your dollars to go much further.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:19 am to Devenbaker
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I believe one point to consider is whether you will have an employer who wants you around past 65. Many large companies are offering early retirement packages to folks in their mid 50s and above to cut costs (those individuals being the highest paid). These packages are generous, but will not allow most to walk away at that point.
Agreed. There are hardly any employees over 65 at my company. I would say less than 5% of people are over 60. Once you get over 50 or 55 you're on the chopping block for when the next round of layoffs or forced retirement happens. This is an oil company so it is a little more cyclical and drastic than most places, though.
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