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Biden to end 401k Tax Benefits

Posted on 8/25/20 at 8:59 am
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 8:59 am
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One of the items in that document and on the Biden campaign website is a promise to “equalize the network of retirement saving tax breaks” — a proposal that generally translates to eliminating the tax advantages currently enjoyed by retirement savings accounts and replacing them with a “credit” or “match.” 


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The idea is that the tax advantages, or “tax expenditures,” as they’re called, disproportionately accrue to relatively higher earners, and the hope of a change is to provide benefits in equal measure to all income groups.


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So what did that proposal suggest? It included a variety of options, including

Reducing total available pre-tax savings (employer and employee) from (at the time) $51,000 to only the lesser of $20,000 or 20% of pay;

Expanding the currently relatively-small “Saver’s Credit” (equal to 50% of the first $2,000 in retirement savings, only for relatively lower earners, up to $$19,500 for singles, $39,000 for couples; and phasing out quickly, to 20%, 10%, and ultimately nothing for singles with $32,500/couples with $65,000 in income) to stay at 50% for higher earners and phase out in a much more gradual manner instead; or

Wholly removing any tax benefit for retirement savings and provide a credit of 25% instead (often this proposal includes a limit to the credit; this particular proposal doesn’t specify such; also, note that this was prior to the 2017 tax law which dropped tax rates).




Lots more in the article about what this could look like in practice. It's an interesting read.

LINK
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:05 am to
Yeah that's a no from me dawg.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13563 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:08 am to
Removing incentives to save for retirement when hardly anyone saves enough for retirement as it is seems like a bad idea.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50122 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:08 am to
frick the old goat and his goddamned communist handlers.
Posted by Costanza
Member since May 2011
3151 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:09 am to
Noone:

Democrats: You know who we should go after? Responsible people who are saving for retirement.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:10 am to
We should raise minimum wage while we’re at it
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:12 am to
Posted by Jobo
Member since Dec 2011
60 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:13 am to
Unfortunately, I don't think this is just a Biden thing. These types of ideas are going to keep coming from Democrats no matter who is in charge
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14529 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:27 am to
I don't have a 401k (State employee). But this would be an absolutely idiotic thing to do. Especially since the entire stock market (ponzi scheme) is reliant on people putting money in and leaving it there. If you disincentivize people from putting their money away, you're gambling the small potential for a better economy (more money in pockets and changing hands) for a large potential stock market crash.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13563 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:35 am to
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Especially since the entire stock market (ponzi scheme) is reliant on people putting money in and leaving it there.



Please tell us more
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:51 am to
interesting the stock market is a ponzi scheme? that is a new one.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101419 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:54 am to
Anyone who thinks the dems aren't coming for these if they get the chance.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45810 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:55 am to
It will come to a time, sooner than later, where we will have to pick up arms and defeat these tyrants
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:58 am to
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Anyone who thinks the dems aren't coming for these if they get the chance


democrats view 401k's as untapped "revenue".
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11102 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 10:05 am to
The braintrust at the DNC will never seize to amaze me
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 10:05 am to
Highly doubt any of this gets seriously put forward. It's likely in there to appease the far end of the party during campaign season.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 10:19 am to
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Highly doubt any of this gets seriously put forward. It's likely in there to appease the far end of the party during campaign season.



100% this

0 chance anything like that actually happens if Biden gets elected
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80778 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 10:25 am to
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Anyone who thinks the dems aren't coming for these if they get the chance.

I'm 31 and I fully believe that in my lifetime 401ks will be raided in some form by Democrats. It really isn't any secret that they have seen this as a nice untapped source of revenue that they can move the goal posts very little at a time to avoid massive uproar.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11301 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 10:29 am to
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I'm 31 and I fully believe that in my lifetime 401ks will be raided in some form by Democrats


36. Same feeling.

I expect no social security and likely some sort of retro tax on my 401k/IRA savings.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42483 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 10:38 am to
Yeah, but free preschool that will somehow end institutionalized racism
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