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As everyone screams that the world is burning. Make your statement.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:17 am
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:17 am
Will the major indices finish the year up or down overall.
S&P - up
DJIA - down
Nasdaq - up
Russell - down
S&P - up
DJIA - down
Nasdaq - up
Russell - down
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 9:18 am
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Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:20 am to Dawgfanman
quote:
S&P - down
DJIA - down
Nasdaq - down
Russell - down
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:21 am to Dawgfanman
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:27 am to Dawgfanman
quote:
S&P - up
DJIA - down
Nasdaq - up
Russell - down
S&P - down
DJIA - up
Nasdaq - down
Russell - up
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:44 am to Dawgfanman
Still lots of chicken on this bone. I think we have another 6 months to a year before going conservative.
Inflation drops because of recession fears and people curling into a ball on frivolous spending.
Housing market in a stalemate due to sellers not wanting (not able?) to come down, and buyers not wanting to take on a high mortgage payment.
Inflation drops because of recession fears and people curling into a ball on frivolous spending.
Housing market in a stalemate due to sellers not wanting (not able?) to come down, and buyers not wanting to take on a high mortgage payment.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:48 am to Dawgfanman
This is the usual “panic selling” trend, big fund managers rearranging their portfolios on the same day, hoping to get a few people to sell, dropping the price low, then buying it all back a few weeks later when everyone forgot.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:52 am to Dawgfanman
The Kamala crash of 2024
She is pretty much officially the nominee and some polls show her winning.
She is pretty much officially the nominee and some polls show her winning.
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Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:55 am to Boss13
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Inflation drops because of recession fears and people curling into a ball on frivolous spending.
I don't think fear will cause that, US consumers have been conditioned into a form of indentured servitude (car loans out to 8-10 years, boat loans to 15, home to 40). Consumer debt creation has beaten the literal frick out of Real GDP since Q4 2021, meaning a lot of the GDP growth since then (if not all) has been due to consumers attempting to offset inflation onto their credit cards simply so they don't have to change their lifestyles (for example: Carnival cruise lines bookings for 2025 are already multiples of what they were for 2024).
The US consumer isn't going to move away from over-utilization of debt until they are forced to due to the consumer debt bubble popping. If that bubble pops, then yes we will see deflation as suddenly Bawpaw's credit card no longer works for neither baby formula nor beer (having to rely on cash instead).
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:59 am to Dawgfanman
SP and Nasdaq both still up around 10% YTD including last week and today's drop. I think they finish up for full year 2024. Probably only single digits though.
Dow up about 3% YTD right now and Russell about flat YTD. Less room for error but I think they will both be flat or up slightly for full year 2024.
Basically I'm assuming we aren't getting any more return for rest of year. Will probably go down more from here and then come back up some.
I don't know shite.
Dow up about 3% YTD right now and Russell about flat YTD. Less room for error but I think they will both be flat or up slightly for full year 2024.
Basically I'm assuming we aren't getting any more return for rest of year. Will probably go down more from here and then come back up some.
I don't know shite.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:59 am to Dawgfanman
S&P - up
DJIA - up
Nasdaq - up
Russell - up
DJIA - up
Nasdaq - up
Russell - up
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:43 am to Bard
quote:
The US consumer isn't going to move away from over-utilization of debt until they are forced to due to the consumer debt bubble popping. If that bubble pops, then yes we will see deflation as suddenly Bawpaw's credit card no longer works for neither baby formula nor beer (having to rely on cash instead).
Do people actually buy baby formula? The only people having babies get wic
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:38 am to Bard
quote:Multiples? As in bookings for 2025 are already MORE than 2X what all 2024 bookings are? Link?
Carnival cruise lines bookings for 2025 are already multiples of what they were for 2024
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:39 am to LSUcam7
quote:
S&P - up
DJIA - up
Nasdaq - up
Russell - up
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:53 am to Dawgfanman
Up in all indexes
Posted on 8/5/24 at 1:50 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
Multiples? As in bookings for 2025 are already MORE than 2X what all 2024 bookings are? Link?
Bah! Making two posts on different topics at the same time.
quote:
The Miami-based company said post-2024 reservations outpace current-year bookings in the quarter, with both new and repeat customers up 10% year-over-year.
quote:
“In the last 3 months, not only did we take more bookings for post-2024 sailings than we did for in-year sailings, we set yet another record for the most future bookings ever taken during the second quarter,” said Josh Weinstein, CEO and president of Carnival Corp.
LINK
Not multiples, but still record-breaking.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 1:59 pm to Bard
Up across all. This would be a huge retrench to give back all gains from H1 2024.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:58 am to Nole Man
Posted on 8/6/24 at 5:19 am to dgnx6
That woman is not only ignorant but mentally insane.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 7:03 am to Dawgfanman
All down , I'm afraid.
The investment banks are beginning to unload ... they know what is coming. IMO, this is the signal for the next leg down.
Next up: Margin calls
The markets will recover from official correction territory, but can they do it in 4 months? Mebbe with a 2 point rate cut but the risk is that if it goes wrong, the Fed is out of ammo
Be safe out there folks ... the bear could officially arrive as early as this week
The investment banks are beginning to unload ... they know what is coming. IMO, this is the signal for the next leg down.
Next up: Margin calls
The markets will recover from official correction territory, but can they do it in 4 months? Mebbe with a 2 point rate cut but the risk is that if it goes wrong, the Fed is out of ammo
Be safe out there folks ... the bear could officially arrive as early as this week
This post was edited on 8/6/24 at 7:17 am
Posted on 8/6/24 at 7:05 am to Dawgfanman
quote:
S&P -
DJIA -
Nasdaq -
Russell -
If they all finished the year up 3%, but inflation between now and the end of the year is up 6.5%, would you consider them finishing UP, or DOWN?
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