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re: 45 Years of age, at what level would you stop saving for retirement?
Posted on 9/5/26 at 11:06 am to beaverfever
Posted on 9/5/26 at 11:06 am to beaverfever
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Does not compute.
Assuming they are 38 (under 40), that $800k would grow to $4.3 million at age sixty with an 8% annual return and no additional investments. The 4% rule would allow for $172k per year to live on for the rest of their life. Assuming no late life children, most people can easily live on $172k per year.
What does not compute?
Posted on 9/5/26 at 12:49 pm to nolaks
At 45, even with a pretty healthy retirement balance, I probably wouldn’t completely stop contributing. I’d at least keep getting the full employer match and continue funding tax-advantaged accounts.
But there absolutely is a point where you can ease off the gas. If you already have enough invested that reasonable growth should get you to your retirement target by 60, then spending some of that extra cash on travel, family, hobbies, etc. makes sense. You don’t get your 40s and 50s back.
The number isn’t really $800K or $1M—it depends on what you expect to spend in retirement, Social Security/pension income, debt, and when you want to quit working.
It's a good problem to have!
But there absolutely is a point where you can ease off the gas. If you already have enough invested that reasonable growth should get you to your retirement target by 60, then spending some of that extra cash on travel, family, hobbies, etc. makes sense. You don’t get your 40s and 50s back.
The number isn’t really $800K or $1M—it depends on what you expect to spend in retirement, Social Security/pension income, debt, and when you want to quit working.
It's a good problem to have!
Posted on 9/5/26 at 2:32 pm to Rize
quote:Gotta stop caring about this stuff. IMO, the entire point of being rich/wealthy is the freedom to be indifferent to marginal expenses/costs like this.
but free checked bags.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 7:27 pm to nolaks
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stop saving so aggressively and go enjoy a little more
What does enjoy a little more mean? This is going to be different for everyone, but I think it’s often used as an excuse to forego disciplined saving.
Personally, I’d rather be able to retire at 50 and “enjoy a little more” while my kid is a still a kid.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 8:22 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Gotta stop caring about this stuff. IMO, the entire point of being rich/wealthy is the freedom to be indifferent to marginal expenses/costs like this.
I spend plenty just try and cut on some stuff sometimes. Just part of me being cheap on stuff I don’t really value.
I’m more of a purchase something to have than experiences. Went to dinner last week for my 18th anniversary and meal was about $400 with tip. I got the cheapest steak on the menu.
Probaly saved myself $40 bucks
Posted on 9/5/26 at 8:37 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Exactly. Buy whatever you want, go wherever you want, do whatever you want, whenever you want.
Gotta stop caring about this stuff. IMO, the entire point of being rich/wealthy is the freedom to be indifferent to marginal expenses/costs like this.
Posted on 9/7/26 at 6:58 am to nolaks
My very rough math says I could take home an additional $600-$700 a month if I reduced contribution down to 6%, comply match. If I continue to put that into retirement, I could have an additional $200k+ in my 401k in 10 yrs, 55y possible retirement. That money could generate about $600 -$700 a month in additional retirement money for the rest of my life.
Posted on 9/7/26 at 11:04 am to nolaks
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Saw an interesting thread yesterday that suggested if you were under 40 and had $800K or more in retirement you should stop saving so aggressively and go enjoy a little more (assuming you plan to work until 60).
Even assuming inflation at 2% the 800K will have the buying power of 538,000. Save the same, or more, until you retire. Of course, you need to live the one life you have. You aren't guaranteed the next day.
Posted on 9/7/26 at 11:13 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:just got home from two weeks in Colorado. I have no idea how much we spent and don’t care to know. I just ordered a $200 greenhouse tarp so I can protect my banana plants thru the winter upcoming and hopefully get some $10 apiece bananas next summer
the entire point of being rich/wealthy is the freedom to be indifferent to marginal expenses/costs like this.
live your life
Posted on 9/7/26 at 6:14 pm to cgrand
quote:Yep. And here's some other similar items:
just got home from two weeks in Colorado. I have no idea how much we spent and don’t care to know. I just ordered a $200 greenhouse tarp so I can protect my banana plants thru the winter upcoming and hopefully get some $10 apiece bananas next summer
live your life
Tips - never think twice about it or get in the weeds calculating them. Any tab less than $100, leave like $25 - 50. Never leave less than $20 on the pillow for a hotel maid - and find ways to leave $50-100 at times. It actually means something to that person and you won't notice it at all.
Returns - never waste time on this for Amazon-esque items. If it doesn't fit/work/etc. either throw it away, give it to someone else or put it in your donate pile.
Don't care about the cost of plane tickets or spend much/any time at all price shopping. Fly on the airline you want, when you want and make sure you are comfortable (even if that means paying for business).
When you rent a car, rent something nice that you know will be fun to drive and plenty big enough for your needs.
Don't cheap out on hotels or do crazy check in times to save a dime. Stay at a place you want, that is nice for how you want it and is convenient to what you want to do.
If you have people in your family/friends/network that you would love to join you in travel/events but you know doesn't have the same means you do, don't be shy about just paying for their flights/lodging. I find the best way is saying "I have a jillion airline miles to burn, so it's not costing me anything" - and then either using those (if it's true) or just pay cash. They don't have to know, but it is worth the effort to be sensitive to their pride and not make them feel like leeches.
For weddings/birthdays/graduations/etc, be very generous. Obviously, keep it appropriate for the relationship, but IMO, you should never give less than $1000 for a wedding and $500 for a graduation. I have taken to given amounts based on birthday # (e.g. $2100 for the 21st). It absolutely makes an impact on the receiver and you won't notice at all.
For concerts - only do VIP and, if driving, pay for the advantaged parking and don't care about the price of any of this. You stood in long lines and pinched pennies when you were young. It's time to just cut to the front of the line and forget about it.
Private air travel - I have been ridiculed for this, but I stand by it: if you are, say 60+ and have a net worth of at least $15M (I could argue for lower, but let's go with this), then earmark at least $1M of that over the rest of your life to spend on private flying. If you called it $30K/trip (and that's probably WAY too high), then you could do more than 30 trips over the years to see family/friends/grandkids/whatever. All the better if you can have a group of 8-10 join you. Just know the math will never work on paper and make peace with it, but the personal utility spread around your friends and family is priceless.
I can probably think of more, but the point is simple: if you have a big denominator, know what it is and treat individual "numerator" expenses in context. If you are rich and worried about $100 spends, that is the same as being middle class and worrying about $1 spends. Stop caring and start living your life. The utility is IN THE NOT CARING. THAT IS FREEDOM. To quote Don Draper: THAT'S WHAT THE MONEY IS FOR!!!
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 11:29 am
Posted on 9/7/26 at 6:16 pm to Enadious
Just save X% that makes you happy and move on with life. We over think retirement way too much. I agree live life when you are younger. Live life when you are older with a job also. Find some financial independence and work life balance as soon as possible and enjoy life.
Too many people caught up in stopping working. Why? Why stop making money? I love making it. It’s fun. It doesn’t have to be a burden on life like people make it.
Too many people caught up in stopping working. Why? Why stop making money? I love making it. It’s fun. It doesn’t have to be a burden on life like people make it.
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:00 pm to TheOcean
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But what the frick am I going to spend my money on? There's only so much shite you can buy
Don't tell that to a wife or girlfriend who likes Amazon.
I agree. Retired and 58 and still clip food coupons and looking for deals. House and cars are paid off. On Obamacare for health insurance. One thing people don't factor in, is inflation.
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:14 pm to baldona
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Why stop making money? I love making it. It’s fun
I have fun at work too, but a whole lot more fun when I’m off.
It’s not for everyone. If you don’t have enough hobbies to keep you busy without a job, you might be better off saving less and spending more money now. Personally, I’d like to retire at 50… and if I had saved like I do now 10 years earlier, I would probably be retiring by 45.
This post was edited on 9/7/26 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 9/7/26 at 9:30 pm to Theduckhunter
I’d like the optionality for retirement but I have no idea if I’ll actually pull the trigger. The freedom to do it whenever I want is worth it alone.
I don’t need to work forever and build an empire. I guess the idea of a private jet is fun but I don’t need that lifestyle to find fulfillment.
I don’t need to work forever and build an empire. I guess the idea of a private jet is fun but I don’t need that lifestyle to find fulfillment.
Posted on 9/7/26 at 10:52 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Private air travel - I have been ridiculed for this, but I stand by it: if you are, say 60+ and have a net worth of at least $15M (I could argue for lower, but let's go with this), then earmark at least $1M of that over the rest of your life to spend on private flying. If you called it $30K/trip (and that's probably WAY too high), then you could do more than 30 trips over the years to see family/friends/grandkids/whatever. All the better if you can have a group of 8-10 join you. Just know the math will never work on paper and make peace with it, but the personal utility spread around your friends and family is priceless.
I flew private for the first time this summer, and the value in it was indescribable. I don't think we will ever do a family vacation flying commercial ever again.
All of the other points you made are pretty spot on. The wealthier a person is, the more valuable their time, peace, and conveniences are.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 3:40 pm to FortunateSon
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bet your 60 year old self will appreciate the flexibility that will provide.
But may not appreciate the smaller amount of time he has to do things before he dies.
Put another way: Would you rather hike in the Grand Canyon at 40 or 60?
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:21 pm to nolaks
Eh I just hit 36 and have 1.3M in mortgage debt so I will stop once that’s paid off
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:20 pm to fareplay
quote:I don't really understand caring about this all that much.
Eh I just hit 36 and have 1.3M in mortgage debt so I will stop once that’s paid off
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:44 pm to fareplay
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1.3M in mortgage debt
Imagine all the experiences one could have in life with that money.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 6:01 pm to Big Scrub TX
Most of the retirement calcs assume your house is paid off

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